On 1/26/2015 2:57 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
Hi Mojca,

Thank you for clarifying a few things.

I have not seen any information how to contribute modules to ConTeXt or
how they
are passed  up the stream!

A few caveats though!
1) Who „authorizes“ ConTeXt modules for CTAN ?
         2) Do not CTAN and TeXLive have pretty much the same guidelines?
         3) Who gets to decide what is really „Useful“ ?

1 : the ctan maintainers, but in general they accept everything that suits tex and friends (of course it will only accept legally correct items)

2 : i think that texlive has more strict rules with respect to licenses

3 : quality control is not part of the picture nor is maintainance or useability ... i suppose something can end up on ctan that is unuseable, broken and unmaintained ... it's user driven

- : for texlive it can make sense to also provide the right information for inclusion and installation and that is what the garden packager does (you cannot expect texlive maintainers to keep track of all that)

I did not mean to say do not use TDS!  Besides, one can always install the
„missing“ modules in the TeXLive tree, if they really want them!

regards
Keith.

Am 26.01.2015 um 14:03 schrieb Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com <mailto:mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com>>:

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Keith Schultz wrote:
Hi Alex,

The simple answer to your question would be to use this page:

http://www.ctan.org/upload/

No, in case of ConTeXt that's not correct. The idea would be to handle
everything automatically once the modules are uploaded to
modules.contextgarden.net <http://modules.contextgarden.net/>. Some
discrepancies are intentional, some
are "bugs" (read as: nobody noticed that a module was missing and/or
bothered requesting it).

I was offline for a while and will explain this later in detail. I
just wanted to make sure that nobody starts uploading cmscbf and alike
to CTAN.

BUT, the MISSING modules or packages are so-called third party!
It should be the responsibility of the AUTHORS, to upload the to CTAN!

No, that's not the case with ConTeXt modules. They are synced
automatically.

Also, e.g cmscbf and cmttbf are no longer needed in mkiv! They are
for use
with
mkii!

Furthermore, you should concertrate on using ONLY MKIV! Especially,
since your audience seem to be introductory.  MKII is frozen and IMHO
outdated!

It's not so much outdated, but it's certainly frozen and certainly not
worth spending too much effort in it. (With an exception of occasional
support for XeTeX which is still an up-to-date engine.)

I would suggest that you point them to the Standalone stable release,
if you actually need the missing third party modules.

No, wait, let's try to clear things up first.

If modules should be on CTAN and aren't, I'll add them to CTAN. If
modules are on CTAN, but not in TeX Live, we should figure out why
they are excluded from TeX Live and either make sure that they are
either added to TeX Live (if there are no problems with licencing,
packaging etc.) or removed from CTAN (in case they are not really
useful). We could keep some modules on CTAN if they are useful, but
don't qualify for TL inclusion for some obscure reason.

"Don't use TeX Live" could be the proper advice for someone who wants
to use the latest version of ConTeXt, but one shouldn't confuse the
user just because a module is missing in TL by accident.

Mojca

[snip, snip]


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