On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 11:26:47AM +0200, Vincent Hennebert via ntg-context
wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 10:23 +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> > On 8/11/2021 10:09 AM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 9 Aug 2021, at 18:10, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context <ntg-
> > > > cont...@ntg.nl> wrote:
> > > > (…)
> > > > core-con.lua (line 1155):
> > > >
> > > > local ordinals = {
> > > > [...]
> > > > french = function(n)
> > > > if n == 1 then
> > > > return "er"
> > > > + else
> > > > + return "e"
> > > > end
> > > > end,
> > > > }
> > >
> > > Hi Wolfgang,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the example and the fix, but I would rather think that the
> > > « french » part of ordinals should be
> > >
> > > french = function(n)
> > > if n == 1 then
> > > return « er"
> > > else
> > > return « ème"
> > > end
> > > end,
> > >
> > > Now if this were not accepted as a fix in core-con.lua, is there a
> > > way for a user to change the default to the above choice in his
> > > document ?
> >
> > it is no problem to fix if you all can agree on what/how to fix ...
>
> The purpose of abbreviations is, well, to abbreviate. Even though ‘ème’
> is seen a lot, it’s wrong because it’s too long. Source (pretty
> official):
> https://www.academie-francaise.fr/abreviations-des-adjectifs-numeraux
>
> So for numbers starting from 3 the proper abbreviation is ‘e’.
>
> For 1 and 2 it’s more complicated, however, as it depends on the
> gender. For 1:
> * masculine: 1er
> * feminine: 1re
>
> In addition for 2, and when the enumeration contains only 2 elements,
> there is the option to use the older word ‘second(e)’:
> * masculine: 2d
> * feminine: 2de
>
> For 3 elements and above, we always use the newer word ‘deuxième’,
> which is abbreviated in the form of the generic ‘e’.
>
> While that rule is optional, people who use tools like ConTeXt are
> likely to pay attention to that kind of details and will probably want
> to use it.
>
> Finally, we have to add an ‘s’ to all the abbreviations if the plural
> is needed (the 1st (1ers) elements, the 2nd (2ds or 2es) elements,
> etc., vs the 1st (1er) element, 2nd (2d or 2e) element…).
>
> Now, can all those subtleties be coded in a function? :)
>
> Vincent
Bravo! Comme un professeur!
Best wishes, Rudolf
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