I'm not finding a textinfo.html on the system that I'm using ntop on. Is
that the actual name of the file?

I don't know where else to look to see what, if anything, is getting
dropped. Our NMS reports that the links being monitored are averaging around
976kbps since I restarted ntop this morning. But, ntop is only reporting an
average of 38kbps. So there's a lot being dropped, I just don't know how to
track down where it's being dropped. This is what I'm seeing on Summary ->
Traffic.
 
Dropped (libpcap) 59.5% 70,569 
Dropped (ntop) 0.0% 0 
Total Received (ntop) 118,545 
Total Packets Processed 118,545 
Unicast 99.9% 118,469 
Broadcast 0.1% 76 
Multicast 0.0% 0

The good news is, I do have a new machine on order for this, so if this is
hardware related, that should soon be eliminated. I'll look back through the
threads for info on machine recommendations. Thanks.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Burton M. Strauss III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Ntop] dropped packets

Yes and yes. And no and no.  It all depends...

As I say in the faq entries, packets get dropped a lot of places.  And
libpcap under Linux isn't very honest about it's reporting.

Stuff reported at the driver level would be in the ifconfig counts, that's
probably (but not always) before libpcap sees them.  How each particular
driver is coded and what it's reporting is, well, up to the driver writer.
Some NICs have counters that the driver can interrogate, others don't.  etc.

Overruns are usually a network card problem on the local LAN segment - it's
sending garbage that 'happens' to be more than the garbage counter at the
'start' of the packet.  Sort of like looking at the progression of digits
from a PRNG and thinking you see a phone number in there 972555121212 - hey,
that's directory assistance, but there's an extra 12 in it...  But it could
be other things, it's dependent upon the NIC and driver as to what count(s)
they are actually putting in that bucket.

Then you have the kernel and finally libpcap.

Now, for whatever libpcap sees, when you look at the textinfo.html stuff,
there should be a trail of where ntop thinks the packets get dropped.  As
you seeing non-zero #s there?  Or is it just in the dropped by libpcap
count?


Luca made a change late in the 3.0 development cycle to essentially poll the
libpcap counter and store the count off in ntop's myGlobals structure so
we're less dependent upon libpcap.   How much better that really is, is
still up for grabs.


As to too low end, I think yes.  There was a back traffic message where I
did some envelope calculations about memory bandwidth - with PC100, I seem
to recall finding it was pretty easy to swamp.  Might search @ Gmane for
PC100 PC133.

-----Burton



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Chris Beck
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Ntop] dropped packets
>
>
> I read through faq.html about dropped packets, so I understand 
> (somewhat) about where and why they are dropped. I'm noticing that on 
> the WebUI page, under Summary -> Traffic, it's showing anywhere 
> between 40% to 70% of the packets dropped by libpcap. In the output of 
> ifconfig for my monitoring interface, I'm not seeing dropped packets - 
> I'm seeing overruns. So I'm assuming this is where it's happening. Are 
> libpcap dropped packets a hardware/driver issue, or does that mean 
> that it's actively filtering them out?
>
> Out of curiosity, in everyone's experience, what caliber of machine do 
> I need to keep up with two T1s worth of traffic (3Mbps)? Right now, 
> it's a PIII 550MHz with 256MB of PC100 with an Intel 100Mbps NIC. Does 
> this sound too low-end?
>
> Chris Beck, CCNA
> Network Administrator
> Technology Services, City of Fontana
>

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