Thanks Gary and Rivailno!

Your diagnosis was correct.  I'm officially coining the term "swub."  These
"intelligent hubs" aren't actually switches and they're certainly not
hubs... So they must be something in the middle, like "swubs".

The Linksys documentation for the "hub" in question had no info about how it
actually functions.  The "blazing fast" marketing shtick should have been a
hint though - it's got to be doing <something> intelligent to gain more
speed.  I found the answer by going onto the Linksys "Live Chat" page - got
confirmation that all of their auto-sensing "hubs" actually act more like
switches.  

The support rep told me the following hubs "should" act more like a
traditional hub:
EW10HUB
EW5HUB
EWHUB

For the time being we're going to try an old 3Com hub... May be up there in
terms of MTBF (new single point of failure) but it should sort things out
for us for the time being.

THANKS for the assistance - when I actually know more about something "ntop"
than any of you I'll certainly post solutions!

Sincerely,

Brett

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Rivalino Matias Jr.
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:27 AM
To: ntop@unipi.it
Subject: RES: [Ntop] What am I missing (other than a LOT of packets)?

I agree with Gary, it looks like a smart hub (it does not do broadcast) of a
unicast frame like true hubs (repeaters).
Brett, you could validate your ntop setup trying to see the traffic using
tcpdump, iptraf, etc. If you have two other hosts communication and you
can't see with one of those tools, everything indicate that you have a
switch, or a smart hub (w/o repeating) or you have a phisical problem (i.e.
NIC).

Good luck.

Rivailno

-----Mensagem original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nome de Gary
Gatten
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 29 de marco de 2007 15:37
Para: ntop@unipi.it
Assunto: RE: [Ntop] What am I missing (other than a LOT of packets)?


Looks like a switch to me.  It's very rare - VERY rare - to have a dual
speed hub/repeater.  True hubs are typically single speed, 10 or 100,
but not both.  If it's truly a hub and you're still getting broadcast
only traffic, try your dsl speed tests from the nTop host itself.  If
you see traffic in nTop for that host (unicast) but none others, you're
either on a switch or your NIC is not promiscuous.

G


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Brett Younge
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:37 AM
To: ntop@unipi.it
Subject: [Ntop] What am I missing (other than a LOT of packets)?

Hello all,

I see the list is pretty active today... I'm new and looking for answers
-
please :)

Our Ntop box is missing most of my traffic.  It's getting mostly
netbios,
dhcp and other broadcasts... Plus the odd trickle of other information.
Bandwidth stats never pass about 200 kbps but I know I've pushed over
3500
kbps today alone.

We're running ntop pre-compiled snapshot for win-32 (3.2.6.).  In terms
of
architecture, I've got the ntop box hanging off a hub (in promiscuous
mode)
between our LAN's gateway router and the firewall's internal interface.
nTop SHOULD be seeing all traffic in and out of our LAN.

We ran a series of test files from a host on the LAN - downloading "dsl
speed tests," big emails, etc.  I still only show 405 bytes sent (none
received) for the host - only arp, netbios and some other udp traffic
(looks
like mostly broadcast traffic).  Stats for the host also show 97% local
and
3% remote traffic.  The monitor pc (ntop) showed no appreciable up-tick
in
terms of CPU or network utilization during the tests.  I've confirmed
we're
definiely using a hub (linksys 10/100 8-port - efah08w) although I'd
swear
these stats are from a switch.

To configure ntop I'm doing "ntop /r" and the following to re-install
the
service:

ntop /i -i 0 -p
"HTTP=http|www|https|3128,AS400-svcs=telnet|login|515|8476|8471|449|1025
|847
0,Mail-In=995,Mail-Out=465,Mail-Other=pop-2|pop-3|pop3|kpop|smtp|imap|im
ap2,
NetBios=netbios-ns|netbios-dgm|netbios-ssn,FTP=ftp|ftp-data,DHCP-BOOTP=6
7-68
,DNS=name|domain,RemoteDesk=3389,nTop-web=3000"

What am I missing (other than a LOT of packets)?

Thanks!

Brett
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