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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Davide Lorenzetti 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ntop] Collecting NetFlow from Adtran Netvanta 3305 routers



  Templates included.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Luca Deri 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Ntop] Collecting NetFlow from Adtran Netvanta 3305 routers


    Davide
    thanks for your help. If you open the file with wirshark it says that 
template is missing (as ntop says). Can you please capture a longer file until 
you see a template? Or perhaps you have something to configure in the router to 
export the templates?

    Luca

    Davide Lorenzetti wrote: 

      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luca Deri" <[email protected]> 
      To: <[email protected]> 
      Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 5:32 PM 
      Subject: Re: [Ntop] Collecting NetFlow from Adtran Netvanta 3305 routers 


      Jeremy 
      can you please capture some netflow packets (full size) and mail them 
      to me so I can see what happens? 

      Thanks Luca 

      On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Jeremy Campbell wrote: 


        It looks as though consistently 75-85% of flows get dropped with  
“Unknown Template” across all 20 of my Adtran Netvanta 3305’s. 

        My Cisco’s don’t drop any… 

        I’ve checked AOS (Adtran software) updates and errata and nothing is 
mentioned about NetFlow problems… 

        Would someone be willing to take a look at a pcap and see if the  
Adtran is formatting out of spec or if nTop is handling something  incorrectly? 

        Can someone recommend another NetFlow server to try out and see if  it 
has the same problem? 

        Any other suggestions? 

        Thanks… 

        V9 Data Flows Received 
        83,919 
        V9 Option Flows Received 
        2,623 
        Total V9 Templates Received 
        5,262 
        V9 Flows with Unknown Templates Received 
        63,394 

        V9 Data Flows Received 
        133,610 
        V9 Option Flows Received 
        4,024 
        Total V9 Templates Received 
        8,257 
        Bad V9 Templates Received 
        6 
        V9 Flows with Unknown Templates Received 
        115,003 

        V9 Data Flows Received 
        83,688 
        V9 Option Flows Received 
        2,417 
        Total V9 Templates Received 
        4,875 
        V9 Flows with Unknown Templates Received 
        67,080 




        Jeremy Campbell 
        Premium Financing Specialists, Inc. 

        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf  
Of Gary Gatten 
        Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:55 AM 
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [Ntop] Collecting NetFlow from Adtran Netvanta 3305  
routers 

        I can try v9 flows from Cisco on 3.3.10 and see what happens.  My  
GUESS is Adtran is not formatting the records correctly. 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
        To: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
        Sent: Fri Jun 12 09:29:40 2009 
        Subject: [Ntop] Collecting NetFlow from Adtran Netvanta 3305 routers 

        I'm running nTop v3.3.9 and getting many Unknown Templates  collecting 
from an Adtran NetVanta 3305 using Netflow V9 (Only  version supported by this 
router).  There is no configurability on  the Netvanta, so I'm looking for ways 
on the nTop side to get it to  recognize the templates. 

        Example statistics: 

        Flow Senders 
        192.168.253.38 [9,919 pkts] 

        Packets Received 
        9,919 
        Packets with Bad Version 
        0 
        Packets Processed 
        9,919 
        Valid Flows Received 
        16,674 
        Average Number of Flows per Packet 
        3.2 
        V1 Flows Received 
        0 
        V5 Flows Received 
        0 
        V7 Flows Received 
        0 
        V9 Data Flows Received 
        16,674 
        V9 Option Flows Received 
        496 
        Total V9 Templates Received 
        1,015 
        V9 Flows with Unknown Templates Received 
        15,365 
        Discarded Flows 
        Flows with Zero Packet Count 
        0 
        Flows with Zero Byte Count 
        0 
        Flows with Bad Data 
        0 
        Flows with Unknown Template 
        15,365 
        Total Number of Flows Processed 
        16,674 

        Configuration on the NetVanta is very basic: 

        ip flow export destination 10.100.0.143 2014 source eth 0/1 

        nTop debug output: 

        Jun 12 09:26:21 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 2660 [displ=64][len=16488] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   NETFLOW_DEBUG: Received  
NetFlow packet(len=556)(deviceId=3) 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=20] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 258 [displ=20][len=44] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=64] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 257 [displ=64][len=72] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=136] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 258 [displ=136][len=44] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=180] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 257 [displ=180][len=40] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=220] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 258 [displ=220][len=44] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=264] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 257 [displ=264][len=40] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=304] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 258 [displ=304][len=44] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=348] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 257 [displ=348][len=40] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=388] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 258 [displ=388][len=44] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=432] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 257 [displ=432][len=40] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=472] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 258 [displ=472][len=44] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   Found FlowSet [displ=516] 
        Jun 12 09:26:22 pfc-flow ntop[43246]:   >>>>> Rcvd flow with UNKNOWN 
template 257 [displ=516][len=40] 

        Any suggestions?  I'm willing to put effort into helping nTop  
recognize the Netvanta templates if someone can point me in the  right 
direction... 

        Thanks... 

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