I'm up in Gwinnett (Duluth), what part of town are you in ? On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Melvin Backus <melvin.bac...@byers.com> wrote:
> The offer’s good to you as well, or anyone else on the list for that > matter. If you’re in or passing through, any excuse for a brew is a good > excuse. J (As if there’s ever really a need for one) > > > > -- > There are 10 kinds of people in the world... > those who understand binary and those who don't. > > > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Erik Goldoff > *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 12:28 PM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > cool, another in the ATL :D > > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Melvin Backus <melvin.bac...@byers.com> > wrote: > > My condolences on your current position. I highly recommend you find other > employment, unless of course you enjoy that level of abuse, in which case, > you’ve obviously found exactly the right place. I realized there are > places that operate in the mode you’ve described. I’m also aware there are > many more that do not. Usually the ones that do tend to have an extremely > high turnover rate because of it. Of course that’s all just my experience, > your mileage may vary. > > > > Feel free stop by if you’re in the Atlanta area and we can have a brew and > discuss the matter to no end if you like. J > > > > > > -- > There are 10 kinds of people in the world... > those who understand binary and those who don't. > > > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *john.matte...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 11:18 AM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > And ten minutes after you’ve given your notice, you’re marched out of the > building by two security goons, or the local constabulary with the comment > from management, “We’ll pack your things and ship them to you.” > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, > Jim > *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 8:56 AM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > It matters to management when you give your 2 week notice, which is > exactly what I would do if they treated me as you described. Any of us that > are half way decent can find a new better higher paying gig just by picking > up the phone on the drive home. > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of * > john.matte...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Saturday, November 25, 2017 5:23 AM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > Since when does that matter to management? We’re all barely evolved pond > scum as far as management goes when things are going right. When the > environment blows up due to a zero day, or an undiscovered vulnerability > and management is looking for retribution, IT people are the first to feel > the axe on their necks. > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Melvin > Backus > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 1:01 PM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > And if the current stats are even close to accurate there are something > like 200000 unfilled cybersecurity jobs at the moment with only about 20000 > qualified people to fill them, and the unfilled numbers are growing faster > than the qualified people. That would lead me to think that the ‘career > ending event’ would actually be a gateway to a new job where they probably > understand that you can’t possibly catch everything, particularly > heretofore unknown things. > > > > How’s that saying go? You can’t know what you don’t know. > > > > -- > There are 10 kinds of people in the world... > those who understand binary and those who don't. > > > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Andrew S. > Baker > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:43 AM > *To:* ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > Sure, but there are lots of ways to lose jobs -- many of which have > nothing to do with your own personal actions. > > > > InfoSec currently lends itself more to employment than unemployment. > > > Regards, > > *ASB* > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > More like job insecurity. Missing an exploit might be a career ending > event, even if it is heretofore an unknown exploit. > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:54 AM Melvin Backus <melvin.bac...@byers.com> > wrote: > > Some call them opportunities, we in IT call them job security. J > > > > -- > There are 10 kinds of people in the world... > those who understand binary and those who don't. > > > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Buff > *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 11:34 AM > *To:* ntsysadm <ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> > *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] OS in the CPU > > > > There are always more problems: > > https://www.thezdi.com/blog/2017/10/04/vmware-escapology- > how-to-houdini-the-hypervisor > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRemWLNBSZg > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > But wait! There's more... > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ > > > > > > (I see your "solution" and raise you two more problems) > > > Regards, > > *ASB* > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The OS in question (minix), isn't in the main CPU - it's in the CPU of the > management engine, which is completely separate, and doesn't, or at least > shouldn't, affect system performance. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology#Hardware > > That actually makes it worse, since as long as the machine is connect to > power, even though putatively "off", the management engine is available. > That is, if it's been configured. This is an enterprise feature, so the ME > is usually not active in consumer-grade computers. > > But, if it's present and turned on, then it's pretty risky: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/09/chipzilla_come_ > closer_closer_listen_dump_ime/ > > But there's some hope, of a sort - Google is on the case: > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/google-removing-minix- > management-engine-intel,35876.html > > Kurt > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > No wonder our machines don't seem as fast as we think they *could* be... > They're busy running more stuff than we thought: > > > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/ > > > > The security implications are also pretty staggering... > > Regards, > > *ASB* > > > > > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > >
