Sorry I deleted your original message by mistake. Check out this - http://www.ithowto.com/novell/clientspeed.htm and this... http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q269/5/90.asp also I have a copy of the patch but I cant post it to the list so send me a private email and I'll reply to your private address. Later - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm