Stop p!ss!ng on my Xen parade :)

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xen


Yah, well the idea being that in a disaster I have 100 Windows boxes, servers 
or desktops that have 100gb hard drives and can simply mount the image. So I 
wouldn't really need to have a spare server ready in case of failure.

Ill probably take a look at xen sooner or later. Being a consultant its hard 
for me to support something that people cant understand. They can understand 
vmware, trading at 125/share owned by EMC ;)

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xen


Well, they don't need to be identical, but yeah you need another server :)
You still need another "box" for vmplayer if you had an esx tank. And BTW, 
running an esx vm on anything but esx causes all the hardware to be redetected. 
Blah.

Xen can do all the stuff esx can now, it's crazy. I like Xen as it leverages 
all the neat stuff Linux has to offer like LVM etc.

jlc

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xen


You can drop VMware server on a really small Linux deployment, that would give 
you all free and on your o/s choice. Im not overly familiar with Xen and a 
couple of the others, but when you are looking at virtualization make sure you 
look at the ability to migrate, upgrade, recover, move, DR and all the tools 
involved with that. If you have a dead vmware server, for example, you could 
take VMware player, workstation, server, ESX, or any of the other products and 
copy in that vm and get back up and running. You can convert anything to 
esx,server,workstation,player using the free VMware convertor tool.

So in a Xen scenario you would need two physical boxes, one for production and 
one 'hot' server in case of failure. You would want to maintain a hot copy of 
the server(s) that you could fire up. Unless you have another server already 
running one of the required o/s'es that you could put Xen on when failure 
occurs.

Im sure other products offer similar functionality you just may want to see how 
it works and what your primary/secondary functions are for virtualization and 
how these needs are addressed.

From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Xen



Along the same vein, I'm on a tight budget, and in my cursory research into 
virtual server programs, Xen was the only free one that ran on bare metal. The 
other free programs ran on top of another OS. Is this correct?

Mark

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From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Xen

Anyone using the open source Xen package to virtualize Windows guests with 
success here?
Just curious if it has gained any real enterprise use yet.

jlc































































































































































































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