Here's what I'm considering ...

* Dock vs Tape Drive



* Pros

* Cost


* An external Quantum RDX dock cost $150 and has cartridges with capacity up to 
1 TB. A external Quantum LTO4 tape drive (800 MB) costs about $1,550 and an 
external Quantum LTO5 tape drive costs about @2,200. I've had 2 tape drives go 
bad in the last couple of years, one under warranty and one not.

* Maintenance

* RDX docks don't require cleaning like tape drives do.

* Longevity

* RDX docks have few moving parts so are less prone to failure
* LTO tape drives have restrictions on which cartridges they can access.   For 
instance, if you have LTO2 tapes and only have an LTO5 tape drive,   you can't 
read the LTO2 tape. In this circumstance, you might have to   restore the LTO2 
data back to disk and then save it to LTO5 just to   maintain ready access. 
Alternatively, buy an LTO3 tape drive and put it   on the shelf.
* 
 
 LTO Matrix                LTO-1             Drive                LTO-2         
    Drive                LTO-3             Drive                LTO-4           
  Drive                LTO-5             Drive                                
               LTO-1 Tape                R/W               R/W               R  
             —               —                    
               LTO-2 Tape                —               R/W               R/W  
             R               —                    
               LTO-3 Tape                —               —               R/W    
           R/W               R                    
               LTO-4 Tape                —               —               —      
         R/W               R/W                    
               LTO-5 Tape               —               —               —       
        —               R/W



* Cons

* Speed (I'm actually surprised by the tapes having a faster transfer rate than 
the RDX cartridges.)


* Quantum RDX connecting via ...


* USB 2.0 has a transfer rate of 25 MB/sec
* SATA has a tranfer rate of 45 MB/sec SATA



* Quantum LTO4 connecting via ...

* Ultra 320 SCSI has tranfer rate of 80 MB/sec
* 3 Gb/sec SAS has transfewr rate of 80 MB/sec



* Quantum LTO5 connecting via ...

* 6 Gb/sec SAS has tranfer rate of 140 MB/sec


* Durability (Lower longevity of RDX dock is offset by much lower price)


* RDX docks

* Dock: 10,000 load/unload cycles
MTBF: 550,000 hours MTBF
Unrecoverable Error Rate:        1 error in 10 14  bits read

* LTO 4 Tape Drive

* MTBF (hours): 250,000 @ 100% duty cycle
Load/Unload Life: 50,000 cycles
Non-recoverable Error Rate:    1 × 10 17  bits (non-media error, clean drive)

* LTO 5 Tape Drive

* MTBF hours: 250,000 @ 100% duty cycle
MSBF: 100,000 cycles
Load/Unload Life: 120,000 cycles
Non-recoverable Error Rate:    1 in 1 × 10 17  bits (non-media error, clean 
drive)






* Disk Cartridge vs Tape

* Pros

* Longevity


* RDX Cartridges are disk drives so the ability to read the data on them is 
limited only by how long the hard drive can operate

* Cartridge Archive Life: 30 years

* LTO 4 Tape

* Archive Storage: 30 years

* LTO 5 Tape

* Archive Storage: 30 years
    

* LTO tape drives have restrictions on which cartridges they can access. For 
instance, if you have LTO2 tapes and only have an LTO5 tape drive, you can't 
read the LTO2 tape. In this circumstance, you might have to restore the LTO2 
data back to disk and then save it to LTO5 just to maintain ready access. 
Alternatively, buy an LTO3 tape drive and put it on the shelf

* Access time

* RDX drive access is 15 msec.
* LTO 4 access time is 80 secs.
* LTO 5 access time is 51 secs.

* Ease of use

* Since RDX Cartridges are hard drives, writing/reading data on them is much 
simpler; as easy as copy a file from the command prompt.
* LTO tapes generally require application software to read\write.  







* Cons

* Cost

* RDX 1 Tb cartridge costs about $185
* LTO4 tape costs about $35
* LTO5 tape costs about $65

* Durability

* Since RDX Cartridges are enclosed in a case that's meant to protect them, 
they have to be more durable than a bare drive but it's still a hard drive.

* Cartridge: 5,000 load/unload cycles


* LTO tapes are pretty rugged. I've dropped them on concrete floors and have 
yet to have one fail.

* LTO 4 Durability: 20,000 load/unload cycles
* LTO 5 Durability: 20,000 load/unload cycles





As with most things, there's no clear-cut winner here. But much food for 
thought.


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Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
Website: www.wiscoind.com
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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:27:50 -0500
Subject: RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive

            
Sorry if this is a naive question but what is the benefit of RDX over LTO?  

    
We backup sufficient that LTO is the only viable tape option so I'm not 
familiar with RDX but at a quick glance the cartridges look damned expensive.  

    
Presumably the benefit is that the base device looks to be cheap vs. an LTO 
drive/library?
  
    _____  

  
From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com]
  Sent: 04 August 2011 9:23 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive
  
    
  
I'm currently using Arcserve and an LTO2 tape drive to backup a remote site. We 
do use a GFS rotation of 22 tapes.
  
  Having worked with RD1000 (which is probably a relabeld Quantum drive), would 
you see any issues with using the RD1000 (or this kind of technology) as a 
replacement for the LTO2 tape drive? I checked and Arcserve supports the 
Quantum RDX.
  
  ----------------------
  
  Bob Hartung
  Wisco Industries, Inc.
  736 Janesville St.
  Oregon, WI 53575
  Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
  Fax: (608) 835-7399
  e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  Website: www.wiscoind.com
      _____  

  From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
  To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
  Sent: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:12:02 -0500
  Subject: RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive
  
  
  

I recently deployed a Dell RD1000 (quite possibly the same with a different 
label) for a small client I still support.  

   

So far I can’t say anything too bad about it. Setup took only a few minutes.  I 
could not use the included software because it did not natively support 
Exchange   without additional licensing, but Windows Backup has worked fine and 
the device simply appears as a drive.  One of their employees changes the drive 
every day and puts it in a Pelican case to take offsite for the night.     

   

The one thing I did do, was buy two devices and some extra drives.  They store 
the spares off site.  I was afraid that 5 years from now, (when they are still  
 using it because they only refresh when something breaks), the main one gets 
stolen or damaged and I can’t find a replacement to restore quickly.   This way 
they have one to plug in and pull a restore from another machine.  

   

BF  

   
  
  

From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]  
  Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:59 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RDX Removable Disk Drive      

   

I've got a Dell PowerVault 110T LTO2 tape drive that has failed and was out of 
warranty so I have to replace the whole thing.
  
  As a possible alternative, I've been looking at the Quantum RDX Removable 
Disk Drive. The price of an PowerVault 110T LTO3 tape drive and the cost of the 
RDX with 22 cartridges aren't that far apart.
  
  Does anyone have any experience with these units? I'd appreciate any feedback.
  
  Thanks.
  
  ----------------------
  
  Bob Hartung
  Wisco Industries, Inc.
  736 Janesville St.
  Oregon, WI 53575
  Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
  Fax: (608) 835-7399
  e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  Website: www.wiscoind.com     

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