Redundant time servers in house....

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote:

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> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue****
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> I've done the same thing on my hyperV guests...turn off host time sync and
> have them all sync to the DCs.  The FSMO role holder is the only machine
> syncing to an external time source.****
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com>
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> Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations.     That's why we moved
> away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests.
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John <john.sen...@etrade.com>
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> We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers
> because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system
> adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it
> turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a
> greater rate.  So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting
> time.****
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> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue****
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> All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations
> sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service.****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue****
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> Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out
> to an external NTP server?****
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> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue****
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> I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have
> my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi****
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue****
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> As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not
> get their time from the hosts.
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers <gswe...@acts360.com> wrote:**
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> We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2
> server.  The 2008 R2 server runs faster.  Watching the clock it actually
> tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console.
> Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick.****
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> Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services,
> but nothing Microsoft or VMware.  Anyone seen this before?  The 2003 Server
> runs normally.  I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15
> seconds in under a minute.****
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