A trick we used to use (many years ago) was that after 3 bad tries NO
password would work, even the right one.

No additional error message, it just let you keep on trying.


On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Ben Schorr <b...@rolandschorr.com> wrote:

> Length is more important than complexity, no doubt. While it’s good to have
> mixed case and numbers and symbols the fact that you COULD is enough to
> force any brute force attack to check for it.****
>
> ** **
>
> And, frankly, any system that will allow 1,000 passwords a second to be
> thrown at it without locking the account or alerting an admin has a serious
> problem.****
>
> ** **
>
> Ben M. Schorr****
>
> Roland Schorr & Tower****
>
> www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2011 12:00
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords****
>
> ** **
>
> huh.. just tried something similar to one of my passwords, all lowercase,
> all letters,  of course my real password has a couple of numbers in it.
>
> 780 quintillion years
>
> 20 character password all lowercase  - 97billion years
> 11character password all lowercase 314 years
> huh... the password -- 0987654321aaaaaa -1 billion years
> aaaaaaaaaaaa - 12 years to hack
>
> so much for the password rules.
>
> then again my password would not work on a unix system.  Are unix systems
> still only 8 characters.
> it looks like any 8 character password can be hacked in less than a week.
>
>
> At 11:00 AM 8/11/2011, Kennedy, Jim wrote:
>
> ****
>
> Good point, I just got phished.
>
> *From:* Gary Slinger [ mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com<gary.slin...@gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:57 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> It wasn't one of my current 'real' passwords. I'm not putting one of those
> in on a site I don't know. ****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Kennedy, Jim" <kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>
> *Date: *Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:46:08 -0400
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> >
> *Subject: *RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> Buwhahahah…. 124 thousand years.
>
> *From:* Gary Slinger [ mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com<gary.slin...@gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:45 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> With one special character, 15 years. Without it, 4 days. Interesting. ***
> *
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Martin Blackstone" <mblackst...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:19:59 -0700
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues< ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> >
> *Subject: *RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> I got one year.
>
> *From:* Shauna Hensala [ mailto:she...@msn.com <she...@msn.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:16 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> Have your users go here:  http://www.howsecureismypassword.net/
> and enter their password to see how long it would take to crack.  A fun
> little exercise.
>
> [image: Description: Red rose]Shauna Hensala****
> ------------------------------
>
> From: webs...@carlwebster.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:43:08 +0000
> I changed my bed linens at the beginning of each semester whether they
> needed changing or not. J
>
>
> Carl Webster
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [ mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu<crawfo...@evangel.edu>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:32 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> nice.
>
> Reminds me of an old roommate, "I clean the shower every six months whether
> it needs it or not."
>
> Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint
>  ****
> ------------------------------
>
> On Aug 11, 2011 7:42 AM, Webster <webs...@carlwebster.com > wrote:
> I change my passwords religiously every 7 years.
>
> Carl Webster
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
>
> *From:* Gasper, Rick [ mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu <rickgas...@kings.edu>]
>
> *Subject:* RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> Crap…I now have to change my password again…
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [ mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com <jk.har...@gmail.com>]
> *Subject:* Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
>
> If the in-house team ever got a round to it both could be kept happy but
> using something like "Horses like 2 fly, like bugs like to be stepped on!"
> Complex and easy to remember.  How long would that take for a brute force
> attack or a dictionary attack to get the password?
>
> FYI that is NOT one of my passwords!
>
> Jon
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Webster <webs...@carlwebster.com > wrote:
> Because the security team and or auditor are simply following a check
> list.  Complex passwords required – check.  My job is done.
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