All services were up (on of a few checks I do when first asked to look at something on a server), "the cause has not been the patch, but typically the reboot request" is spot on IMO. Related to patching but only due to our process around patching.
Dave From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Patch fallout - resolved True, I have seen what you've just described as well. OTOH, when I've had a reboot after patching where all the services didn't come up properly, but did after a second reboot, the cause has not been the patch, but typically the reboot request. Other remote reboot requests have tended to cause similar issues for that machine. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote: Actually, I've seen this before. If there was a pending change prior to patches being installed, sometimes MS-Installer won't actually do all the patch updates until another reboot. Therefore, I tend to do as Webster said - reboot first, then apply patches, then reboot again. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Patch fallout - resolved How can it be the "patching" if a subsequent reboot is fine? Were any patches removed? Isn't it more likely that something happened during the earlier reboot (which was associated with the patching) that impacted the functionality? How many systems were previously rebooted at the same time? Thx ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>> wrote: I blame the patching. I rebooted this server again and everything came back to life... Dave From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS Patch fallout Here's one. I have a web server that before we patched it that worked fine. We patched and now from the machine itself the url works (http://webaddress) But from a client machine the IP works (http://ipofwebserver), but http://webaddress no worky, and neither does http://FQDNofwebaddress. Sicne the address works from the machine itself I know the site is OK. >From a client, pinging webaddress returns the correct IP, pinging FQDN also >returns the correct IP, so name resolution is OK. It feels like an IIS/IP security issue, where it cares what IP you're coming from to allow access. I know I've seen this before and have fixed it, but the fix eludes me at the moment.. Dave From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com<mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com>] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS Patch fallout After some more investigation - it seems as though there was a software installation on one of the servers with issues that required a reboot before the patches were applied. Our DR server is fine - which didn't get the application installed on it but did get it's patches. So we're going to recover and restore the prod server with the issues and go from there. Thanks for the insights folks... From: Christopher Bodnar <christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: Re: MS Patch fallout Can't say I've seen that here. How much of your environment is affected? Every patch cycle I see a few servers that need an extra reboot to clear this type of issue, but it's never been widespread. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com> Phone: 610-807-6459<tel:610-807-6459> Fax: 610-807-6003<tel:610-807-6003> From: Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com<mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Date: 08/22/2011 09:32 AM Subject: MS Patch fallout Hi folks. Has anyone seen any issues with the Microsoft August patches affecting RDP access on Windows 2003 servers or terminal servers? Getting issues after patching yesterday with some 2003 servers won't allow RDP access now. 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