So, what's the SAN out of curiosity?
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: > Would there be any worthwhile gains to attach this SAN drive to a 2008 R2 > server vs. 2003 32-bit? Enumeration is about the only time raw number of > files matter, right?**** > > ** ** > > Feeling like a n00b asking that one.**** > > ** ** > > Dave**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:19 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: # of files on Windows server, is 4 million too many?**** > > ** ** > > I have a customer with a 2003 server that has a couple million files in a > single folder. I didn’t say it didn’t work. I said it wasn’t performant. And > I stand by that. J**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Michael B. Smith**** > > Consultant and Exchange MVP**** > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:15 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: # of files on Windows server, is 4 million too many?**** > > ** ** > > Damn...then I'm in trouble! One Win 2K server currently has**** > > 7,981,328 files at 60GB**** > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:38 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:**** > > 2003 Server, 32-bit**** > > **** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:32 AM **** > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues**** > > *Subject:* Re: # of files on Windows server, is 4 million too many? **** > > **** > > What OS, btw? > **** > > *ASB***** > > *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>***** > > *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…***** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:**** > > Here’s the results from a single logical (SAN) drive on one of our file > servers: > Total Files Listed:**** > > 4661023 File(s) 681,427,607,680 bytes**** > > **** > > On this logical drive are our primary shares for users and shared data, but > if no single folder has more than 2000 files does it matter? I’m thinking > still yes.**** > > **** > > And yes, it takes FOREVER to do any kid of file maintenance on this. **** > > **** > > Dave**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:57 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: # of files on Windows server**** > > **** > > Consider this: NTFS is a type of database. And not a very efficient one > either. And, for very small files, the files are actually stored within the > file system, while with larger files, NTFS has pointers to the actual file > data stored in the FS.**** > > **** > > Storage size has exploded in the last 10 years. However, performance has > not matched the size expansion.**** > > **** > > If I’m going to simply OPEN or CREATE a small file – number of files has > little impact. NTFS is just going to create a new entry in the database.** > ** > > **** > > If I need to find, list, or extend a file – well, it’s going to take > longer.**** > > **** > > If I need to enumerate files (that is, get a directory listing) the more > files I’ve got, the longer it’s going to take.**** > > **** > > It “can be shown” that having more than about 1K files in a directory will > effect enumeration. It becomes really noticeable (IMHO) around 10K and heads > rapidly downhill after that.**** > > **** > > Regards,**** > > **** > > Michael B. Smith**** > > Consultant and Exchange MVP**** > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>**** > > **** > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:46 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* # of files on Windows server**** > > **** > > Recently we had a thread about how many files get to be too many for > reasonable performance. Would this be just per folder, or possibly logical > drive in general? 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