I'd be interested in checking it out if you've got the ip handy.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?

No specific sites...  well, actually I /can/ get the IP of one of the sites.  
The drive-by added bogus google and bing entries to the hosts file in an effort 
to have another vector on system [re]infection.  Malwarebytes promptly blocks 
access to the Romainian IP in question.

Not admin, not aware of any specific unpatched vulnerabilities - but its 
possible.  I've seen the same set of infections on 4 systems in the past two 
weeks.  These were all at different medical/dental clients.


  1.  Malwarebytes would have prevented it.
  2.  MSE got tooled.
  3.  Ultimately it took Kaspersky VRT and TDSSKiller to clean it.

--
Espi




On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Crawford, Scott 
<crawfo...@evangel.edu<mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Do you have any examples of sites that exploit this? Are other factors at play? 
Browsing with admin credentials or unpatched vulnerabilities?

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:26 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?

Yep, the current version.  From what I have seen done to it by web-based 
exploit infections, I would classify the product as "a joke".

I thought it was decent before, but I currently have no faith in it.  This 
being part of the scenario of users, using IE, getting hit with drive-by's, 
those drive-by's pulling down more crap, and ultimately owning the system with 
rootkits.

IMO, MSE has been worthless in these situations.

--
Espi



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:57 AM, John Hornbuckle 
<john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
The current version of MSE? I think it's on v2.0 now.

Of course, there's no substitute for careful behavior, as others have 
mentioned. I'm extremely cautious, and honestly can't recall a single time that 
my antimalware (MSE or the stuff I used before that) software has protected 
from a threat over the past few years.

Maybe MSE works well for me because it never has to do anything.  :)


John


From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:20 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?

I would trust Malwarebytes over a traditional a product.  I wouldnt trust MSE 
what-so-ever.  I've seen web-based drive by exploits absolutely destroy it.

If I was going to couple with an AV product, I'd use Kaspersky primarily, with 
ESET as a secondary choice.

--
Espi



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:34 AM, John Hornbuckle 
<john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
I just use Microsoft Security Essentials. Seems to work well enough for me. Or 
am I naïve?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>



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From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com<mailto:ithelp.e...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: AV and malware protection?

If you had to secure your own personal computer at home (Windows 7), what AV, 
firewall, malware protection would you install?

Thanks!

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