Auditors can be picky here.

What you do to get around this is not surprise them.  Get them onboard
early on, and there are no surprises at audit time.

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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org> wrote:

> Some have taken that stance, but I have also heard the other side, is they
> need to keep AV on workstations, Servers due to compliance issues. ( which
> I don’t really take as a valid argument, especially if compensating
> controls are taking effect)****
>
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> *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:19 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Would you drop AV for Whitelisting / Application Control?****
>
> ** **
>
> So I’m asking a bunch of questions here, because I’m looking at writing
> this****
>
> story from a few different angles. If the ratio Malware to good code is 80
> – 20****
>
> (which it is +/- at the moment) why not drop AV all together and lock down
> those****
>
> workstations and only allow good code to run?   Saves budget.****
>
> ** **
>
> Your view? Input?****
>
>
> Stu ****
>
> ** **
>
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> *From:* Stu Sjouwerman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Whitelisting Pros & Cons?****
>
> ** **
>
> Oh, this an acquisition, that is why it’s having such a high score!   LOL
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com <dhampsh...@gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Whitelisting Pros & Cons?****
>
> ** **
>
> Clearly these results are flawed if McAfee Anything gets higher than a -3
> in any category. :-)****
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Stu Sjouwerman <s...@sunbelt-software.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Thanks Micheal. Anyone experience with any of the Whitelisting products in
> this InfoWorld Review?****
>
>  ****
>
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/test-center-review-whitelisting-security-offers-salvation-835?
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> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2011 5:10 PM****
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Whitelisting Pros & Cons?****
>
>  ****
>
> Whitelisting is the future IMHO.  You cant trust anything anymore.  Faith
> doesnt cut it.  You have to protect yourself and your assets, and
> whitelisting is the best way to do it.
>
> --
> Espi****
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> ** **
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Stu Sjouwerman <s...@sunbelt-software.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm referring to Whitelisting in the context of security.  About 10 years
> ago, the ratio
> "Good code" versus malware was perhaps 90 good 10 bad.  In that scenario,
> it makes
> sense to keep the bad code out. But over the last 10 years, with automated
> malware
> variant generation, the tables have turned, and there is actually more
> malware than
> good code out there. So in -that- scenario it might make sense to only
> allow "good code"
> and implement application control. Only that which is allowed, will run.
>
> I'd like your feedback - input - discussion on this !
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Stu****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:22 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues****
>
> Subject: Re: Whitelisting Pros & Cons?
>
> Are you asking about web content filtering, email filtering, or some other
> type of "whitelisting?"
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stu Sjouwerman
> [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 14 Nov 2011
> 08:14:57 -0800
> Subject: Whitelisting Pros & Cons?****
>
> > Guys, I am writing an article for WServerNews, and would like your
> > public input.
> >
> > What is your experience with Whitelisting, which products you
> > tried/use, and what experience you are having with this, likes and hates
> are all welcome !!
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Stu
> >
>
>

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