+ a metric ton for Tomato.  And for polarcloud (http://polarcloud.com/) in
general, the developer of Tomato firmware.

If you have use for it, the same gentleman distributes Rikaichan, which is
a truly amazing bit of free software.  (Just like Tomato.)

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Steve Kradel <skra...@zetetic.net> wrote:

> I have an Airport Extreme purely because it was the first to have wideband
> 5 GHz.  Very meh overall and I wouldn't recommend now... no QoS or traffic
> shaping, no DDNS, only the thinnest DNS or DHCP features, no scheduled
> access control, must reboot for simple things like changing port forwarding.
>
> My preference is for something that can run the excellent Tomato firmware.
>  Although the Routerboard stuff looks awfully spiffy.
>
> --Steve
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have used various models of Airport Extreme APs - I would say they
>> would be less easy to disable.  The interface is rarely as /direct/ as it
>> is on other devices.
>>
>> --
>> Espi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:14 AM, justino garcia 
>> <jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> How good is the apple Airport extreme I think it called router??
>>> Can you easily turn it on and off?
>>> Speed Lan and wan?
>>> Any one here use one?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> These solutions look very intriguing.  I'll probably pick up one of
>>>> their AP devices.
>>>>
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ya, at the time my primary need was for a p2p tunnel.  The other stuff
>>>>> appealed to me but the community was in a weird transistion state as well
>>>>> with the primary dev, etc.  The whole thing was just too irritating 
>>>>> overall
>>>>> in the end.  Also the basic capabilities of the low end commerical
>>>>> offerings covered my home needs.  Now that I found the RouterBoard folks
>>>>> that will cover any more specialized needs quite nicely now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The tunnels didn't appeal to me, because everything I need to connect
>>>>>> with is IPSec, but they only support OpenSSL.  Once I got over that,
>>>>>> however, I was good, because I searched for the best router that would
>>>>>> support the firmware before I bought it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, it's no different from any other HCL type situation.  If you
>>>>>> get the wrong hardware, you're on a wing an a prayer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DD-WRT is getting to the point where hardware vendors are providing
>>>>>> their equipment with it installed, so that's a good thing, IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback, though.    I have my own list of "not likely
>>>>>> to use" products for similar reasons over time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>>>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First their 'tunnels' did not work as advertised and I spent months
>>>>>>> trying things on their forums only to find out they didn't work per
>>>>>>> documentation.  Second, it was such a pain to get the DD-WRT to work on 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> hardware and you had to be very very careful to get the supported 
>>>>>>> routers
>>>>>>> model number and even then risk your money/investment flashing them.  
>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>> a while, the risk vs what they gave you wasn't enough to overcome the
>>>>>>> annoyance factor of the occasional brick at a time when the hardware 
>>>>>>> was my
>>>>>>> spare cash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't handle work routers (Cisco) at home I have a D-Link that
>>>>>>> works well enough.  For a point to point with a neighbor I have two
>>>>>>> Groove-5Hn that I like a lot (PoE sitting in the attic just fine, 
>>>>>>> though if
>>>>>>> I didn't have the antenna's already then I would have gotten one of 
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> integrated solutions) .  I wil probably replace the D-Link with 
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> of theirs later this year.  Probably RB751U-2HnD or get a board and
>>>>>>> daughterboards which would cost more.  Not sure yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://routerboard.com/GrooveA5Hn
>>>>>>> http://routerboard.com/RB751U-2HnD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steven Peck
>>>>>>> http://www.blkmtn.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
>>>>>>> <asbz...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What problems have you encountered?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have 3 DD-WRT based devices running now (2 at work; 1 at home)
>>>>>>>> and I haven't had any issues.  Still on the Aug 2010 release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, what do you use instead of DD-WRT?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>>>>>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I realize there is a lot of love for dd-wrt but they burned their
>>>>>>>>> bridge with me a while ago.  I just don't find their stuff dependable
>>>>>>>>> enough to actually use anymore.  Granted this may have changed in two
>>>>>>>>> years, but not enough for me to trust them with something I may have 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM, joeu...@chronic.org <
>>>>>>>>> joeu...@chronic.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Anything found here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On January 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM winsys <winsysad...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > A friend of mine is looking for a new home router that he can
>>>>>>>>>> > disable/enable internet access very easily from a web page.
>>>>>>>>>>
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