Thanks Mr. ASB :)
________________________________ From: Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Consulting (was: OT - ugh!) All of the above, including tapping your professional network. Also look at sites such as Guru.com and Freelancer.com for opportunities. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> wrote: This may be out of scope for the list, but since it's been touched on, do any of our successful entrepreneurs care to share how you got your own thing going? >For example, did you start out by advertising, cold calling, website, >contacting head hunters for work or (all of the above)? > > >Just curious of some successful steps that you folks took to get going. I'm >thinking that after you got the ball rolling, you signed on clients for >ongoing support, and then things spread through word of mouth, or how did you >keep an income stream coming in at the beginning? > > >Don K > > > > >________________________________ > From: Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> > >To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:47 AM > >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > >I put off starting my own business for YEARS because I was afraid of what I >already knew. :-) Whereas, in retrospect, I wish I'd done it much earlier. > >I can think of someone else on this mailing list (who is in Alaska this week) >who waited even longer than I did. :-) > >Regards, > >Michael B. Smith >Consultant and Exchange MVP >http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] >Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:28 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >I remember reading something awhile back stating that the reason that some >"non-college educated" people were able to start successful businesses was the >fact that they were not "educated" enough to realize the risks involved. An >interesting thought, isn't it? > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] >Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >No, you don't need a degree to start a billion dollar company, but you do need >brains and a lot of hard work. Of course if it's something you love, it's not >work at all it's a passion, and folks that are passionate about what they do >are what you're looking for. We're better than our less passionate IT workers >simply because we ENJOY the work, learning new ways to do things, learning how >the mechanics of something works, and seeking out others who have the same >passion. I feel I'm better at Windows administration than my fellow SE's >simply because my passion for it is far higher. > >"Sneaking Out to Write Code: You already know how Microsoft was founded. Bill >Gates and Paul Allen dropped out of college to form the company in 1975. It's that simple: Drop out of college, start a company, and become a billionaire, right? Wrong. > >Further study reveals that Gates and Allen had thousands of hours of >programming practice prior to founding Microsoft. First, the two co-founders >met at Lakeside, an elite private school in the Seattle area. The school >raised three thousand dollars to purchase a computer terminal for the school's >computer club in 1968. > >A computer terminal at a university was rare in 1968. Gates had access to a >terminal in eighth grade. Gates and Allen quickly became addicted to >programming. > >The Gates family lived near the University of Washington. As a teenager, Gates >fed his programming addiction by sneaking out of his parents' home after >bedtime to use the University's computer. Gates & Allen acquired their10,000 >hours through this and other clever teenage schemes. When the time came to >launch Microsoft in 1975, the two were ready." > >http://www.wisdomgroup.com/report/10000_hours_of_practice/ > >And another recommended read: >http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2011/12/a_fast_track_to_10000_hours_of.html > >Dave. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:19 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >Apparently you wouldn't HAVE to get a degree to work at Microsoft or >Facebook. Well...at least not to be CEO of either... > >Ben M. Schorr >Roland Schorr & Tower >www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:30 >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >"This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." >Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess the >person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech industry? Or, >maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that thinking. > >It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying "we >changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've heard of that >kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't told >what was really happening. > >Dave > >-----Original Message----- >From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for a >very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in the >process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes when "all >of a sudden" he says "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college >degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." > >I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) > > >Carl Webster >Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >> >> Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very >> strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact >> that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER >> ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, >> period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can >> fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied >> background which would include more than one job over a decade. I >> think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds >> to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch >> my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best >> efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also >> obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! >> >> Murray > > <Older Messages Snipped> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
