I don't have an issue with the "attack", per se. I have an issue with the 
language. I rarely talk that way (and I have to be really angry or really 
drunk) and I just don't like it.

And, in general, I'll give people a couple of freebies before I start with the 
LMGTFY or putting them in my kill file (of which there are 3 right now on this 
list) or with the "Dude, you are an idiot".

But that's just me. And quite frankly, it made me laugh. :)

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Re: Windows File Archive

<raises hand>  +1

As an ex-journeyman in the trades I loved the apprentice metaphor you used 
earlier Micheal. I switched professions a long time ago but a lot of the same 
wisdom prevails. We just call it "mentoring" in this profession.

Been around both here and in general way too long to be too thick-skinned but I 
do try to respect the wishes of others as much as I can. I am fairly rough 
around the edges but I realize that is totally unacceptable to *some* others so 
I try to temper my response. I also learned a long time ago both in the real 
world and the virtual one to thoroughly survey the room before I opened my 
mouth.

I completely with Steve K where he said it just lowers the bar and loses good 
people to coddle laziness (I deand the conversation so that is my 
interpretation of what he said)

Look at what joe richards recently said on his blog [1] about why he doesn't 
answer questions on activedir like he used to. It's a pretty succinct example. 
The rest of us all loose an extraordinary resource.

I have been complaining about that for > 10 years here. It just dilutes the 
response pool because a lot of people have better things to do than do other 
people's job for them. [2]

This particular group is better at smacking down some of that behavior although 
some find it offensive. My advice- Get over it, it was a lot worse in the past 
and it still pops up periodically for entertainment purposes and so Stu can 
exercise his list admin admonishments :)

[1] http://blog.joeware.net/2012/01/24/2418/
[2] http://blog.joeware.net/2011/04/14/2238/



From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows File Archive

It seems clear to me that he's referring to a segment of the group that doesn't 
include you.  Class, shall we have a show of hands?

<raises hand>

--
Espi


On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ben Scott 
<mailvor...@gmail.com<mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins 
<dangerw...@gmail.com<mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Knowing others here as well I can safely say
> it's acceptable to them as well.
 Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement.

-- Ben


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