Using the link I sent, 3 new HP 36GB 15K drives shipped for next morning
10:30 AM delivery to Virginia are $428.21 all in.

Don't really know where the $1,000 price tag is coming from unless the
drives specified above won't work for some reason.

If your management won't spring for new ones, I've got a room full of them
(10K) that I'll send for $100 bucks a piece.  Ground shipping included.  :)

Seriously, explain the difference between $1,000 bucks now and all the time
later required to rebuild the thing from backups.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan <ncm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> and.....short of buying new drives?
>
> Not so sure mgmt will go for spending $1,000 on a 10 year old server that
> is slated for decom....
>
> (yeah, I know, I know)...
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:42 PM, William Robbins <dangerw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>  - Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 13:16, Richard Stovall <rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Order 3 *new* drives, have them overnighted, then proceed with your
>>> original plan.
>>>
>>> http://discountechnology.com/Products/HP-Compaq-SCSI-Hard-Drives
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan <ncm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not sure where to begin on this - I guess it is possible that I've got
>>>> two new (refurbed) drives that are bad, but I'm leaning toward it being a
>>>> fluke or known bug or compatibility issue..... I've Googled till I'm blue
>>>> in the face, and I've searched the archives of this list going back more
>>>> than a year. We can't retire this server just yet, and I can't P2V it right
>>>> now. We're looking to decommission it this year, and replace it with newer
>>>> hardware, so for the moment, I'm stuck with it.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I inherited it....it long predated my existence at this company.
>>>> I had a drive failure in the RAID1, so I bought two reburb units from a
>>>> major channel partner (we are a VAR). The hope was to replace one drive,
>>>> let it rebuild, then add the second drive as a hot spare so I wouldn't be
>>>> in this bind again. Alas, BOTH of the refurb drives register in the System
>>>> Management Homepage with a status of Predictive Failure, Replace Drive. I
>>>> know I've read about false positives with S.M.A.R.T. Status under certain
>>>> OS/Firmware/Driver/MS Update scenarios, but for the life of me I can't find
>>>> anything along those lines right now when I need it. Also, with this being
>>>> a COMPAQ branded server, I'm not 100% certain of what I'm looking at on the
>>>> HP site, as everything referenced looks like a HP branded server. I wasn't
>>>> dealing with HP at the time of the HP Compaq merger, and I never did
>>>> anything with Compaq servers...
>>>>
>>>> I welcome any suggestions offered to get this unit functioning without
>>>> drive array errors (if that is possible). Having the drive listed as being
>>>> in a degraded state doesn't give me any warm fuzzies, and it is
>>>> unfortunately a critical server, so I can't just say, "It's probably not
>>>> really an issue." Of course, I can't be guaranteed that there is a valid
>>>> backup of this server, and even if there is, getting it back online might
>>>> be practically impossible, because like I said, it predates me
>>>> significantly and the individuals who configured it are no longer with the
>>>> organization and the software application is no longer supported. I do have
>>>> original media, but I'd rather not go that route if I don't have to....
>>>>
>>>> Configuration:
>>>>
>>>> Two 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI Hot Pluggable hard drives in a RAID 1
>>>> configuration with no hot spare (like I said, I inherited it)
>>>> Running Windows Server 2000 w/SP4 and all available updates
>>>> BIOS Date is 04/02/01 - newest version appears to be 2002.12.18 (B) (23
>>>> Mar 2004), but the rev history does not show anything related to SCSI
>>>> drives or controllers
>>>> ROM Version from the System Management Homepage is 04/02/2001, Family
>>>> 386P17, Type 03
>>>> Storage Controller is listed as "Compaq Integrated Smart Array
>>>> Controller"
>>>> Storage Controller Driver Date/Version is 10/21/2002, 5.14.0.0 Latest
>>>> version appears to be 5.14.0.0 (E) (13 Apr 2006) but rev notes don't notate
>>>> anything that would implicate a false positive for SMART failure
>>>> Storage Controller Firmware version is 1.46A - looks like 1.50B dated
>>>> 22 Oct 2002 is the latest, but can't find any rev notes that tell me what
>>>> the fixes are between 1.46A and 1.50B
>>>> Port 2 Drive 0 (listed as healthy) COMPAQ BF036863B5 has firmware
>>>> version HPB4 and has service hours total of 63,040 hours - this
>>>> appears to be the latest firmware for this drive per HP* Document ID: *
>>>> c00776070
>>>> Port 2 drive 1 (listed as "Predictive Failure/Replace Drive") COMPAQ
>>>> BF0368A4CA has firmware version HPB5 and has service hours total of 19
>>>> (yes, nineteen) hours - there is an update HPB5 (C) Dated 18 Jul 2007, but
>>>> again, no details in the rev history
>>>> Port 2 Drive 2 - New hot spare presently not inserted - (listed as
>>>> "Predictive Failure/Replace Drive") COMPAQ BF03685A35 has firmware
>>>> version HPB6 and has service hours total of 28,009 hours - there is an
>>>> update HPB8 (C) Dated 18 Jul 2007, but again, no details in the rev history
>>>> HP system Management Homepage version is 2.0.2.106, 2.1.10.186 (C) (29
>>>> Jan 2008) is the latest one listed for this server/OS combination
>>>> HP Array Configuration Utility is v 7.61.2.0, which appears to be the
>>>> latest
>>>> HP Array Diagnostic Utility is v 7.60.18.0, which appears to be the
>>>> latest
>>>>
>>>> This is the only site I've found from HP that comes close to matching
>>>> my server:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=3292422
>>>>
>>>> It is for a HP ProLiant DL380 P1000-256KB 128MB Rack Server, and what I
>>>> have is a Compaq ProLiant DL380 P733-256KB 128MB Rack Server...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>>
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