Interesting...
Thx!

-----Original Message-----
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

I think he meant how are you going to backup your VMDK files.
Read this
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd
=displayKC&externalId=1016407

 John W. Cook
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

I assume I will back up to tape?


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

What are you doing to backup your VM's?
________________________________________
From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: 13 April 2012 8:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

Wow. This is perfect.
You probably just saved me some serious coin.
Thank you!!!


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

vSphere will see all the RAM, but the amount you'll be able to use
(assuming vSphere 5) is licensed/controlled by your vRAM entitlement.

It's one of the biggest and most contentious changes moving from 4.1 to
5.

Here's VMware's licensing paper which lists it in all its glorious
detail:

http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/vsphere_pricing.pdf

So in a nutshell, yes, you'll have almost 600gb of RAM but will only be
able to use 1/3rd of it without ponying up for more licenses.  Nice eh?!
________________________________________
From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: 13 April 2012 7:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

So, even though I will have 588GB of RAM across all 3 hosts, VMware is
only going to see and utilize 192GB?
<confused>




-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

OK one more thing:

vSphere Essentials Plus gives you 6 socket licenses for vSphere
Standard.

Each license gives you 32gb of vRAM entitlement.

6 x 32 = 192gb vRAM across all three hosts.

So 196gb per host seems slightly excessive (consider we can and
occasionally do run around 50 VM's on one host with 144gb).
________________________________________
From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: 13 April 2012 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

LOL
Yes, that is per host.. and it is HP memory (hence the premium)


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!

I'm a penny-pincher, and I saw a only one thing that really stuck out...

> 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone

Ouch! Is that 196 Gig per computer, or total for the 3 servers? Even if
it's 196 per computer, Crucial can get you that much ram for $8100... As
long as I'm looking at the right memory.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=ProLiant%20DL380%20G7&;
Cat=RAM
48GB Kit - ($899.99 each) * 3 for each server ($2699.97) * 3 servers =
$8099.91

<kidding>Hey, I just saved you $36k! Can I get a commission for that?
Sm:)e.</kidding>


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012
08:38:47 -0700
Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!


> Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade.
> I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the
solution:
>
> 3 hosts: ($21k each)
> HP DL380 G7 E5660
> Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored
> 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone
> Quad port gig adapter
>
> 2 Switches: ($1,800 each)
> HP 2910
>
> 1 SAN ($22,700)
> NetApp 2240
> 12 x 600GB
>
> VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200)
>
> 6 Windows licenses ($13,600):
> Server 2008 Datacenter
>
> Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000)
>
> $40k services
> Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008
> Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers
>
> Total: $185,000
>
> Sound good?
>
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