A lab.. nice. You have one? Wish I did. I lack the hardware to set one up. I've 
tried many times to get the boss to let loose of some cash so I can set one up, 
even older used equipment would be useful, but no...

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com
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From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

<Failure to communicate alert>

You've misunderstood the suggestion.

You've been advised to restore a recent backup (one made since the problem 
began) to an isolated lab DC, as an experiment.   The theory is, since recent 
backups complete successfully, perhaps the backup does not contain the 
corruption, or the corruption may not be restored.

Carl

From: Daniel Chenault 
[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]<mailto:[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

*shrug*

Alrighty then...

I may actually be able to get my grubby little hands on a backup that predates 
the first 447 event (that is, before 1/6/12). Rather concerned though; that is 
well past the default tombstone age of 60 days (and what is currently set). 
From what I read in Technet the restore of one that old will be disallowed.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
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From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD


What Steven said.

You only have one functional DC, and no useful historical backups. You might 
want to know if the one you have can be restored, and, if perchance the restore 
avoids the problem.

-ASB: http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker

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On Jun 12, 2012 5:17 PM, "Daniel Chenault" 
<dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>> wrote:
Uh... what's the point? The problem I'm having predates that backup by MONTHS.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: in-depth AD

Try restoring that somewhere offline and see if the problem remains

ASB

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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Chenault 
<dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>> wrote:
Did a backup last night before booting into DSRM and it completed without error 
for whatever that is worth.

2008 R2 SP1, English, 64-bit

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
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From: Damien Solodow 
[mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu<mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

Ah... I was thinking something different based on what you were saying earlier.

Are able to get a successful system state backup from that DC?
Also, what Windows version is the DC in question?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033<tel:317.447.6033> (office)
317.447.6014<tel:317.447.6014> (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Daniel Chenault 
[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]<mailto:[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

It's an object of type... uh... I dunno... you tell me...

NTDS (1836) A bad page link (error -327) has been detected in a B+ Tree 
(ObjectID: 163, PgnoRoot: 952) of database c:\windows\ntds\ntds.dit (2596 => 
3372, 3369)


Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
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From: Damien Solodow 
[mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]<mailto:[mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

Couple questions:

1)      I assume there are multiple domain controllers? Do they all report this 
same error or is it just one DC?

2)      What object is an error being reported on? Depending on the object type 
you may have different options for dealing with it

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033<tel:317.447.6033> (office)
317.447.6014<tel:317.447.6014> (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Daniel Chenault 
[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]<mailto:[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:19 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

Failed with an error (1206 I believe) stating the database is corrupt.

Let me clarify: I, and Microsoft, have run every possible switch or command 
available via ntdsutil and esentutl. Each one failed with an error stating 
corruption. Wanting to try and edit the file manually is not a whim or a wild 
idea but a last-ditch effort unless someone has a better idea.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
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From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]<mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:56 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

Have you done a defrag of the ntds.dit?

From: Daniel Chenault 
[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]<mailto:[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

Oh yes, it's up and running. Basic AD functionality is there; I can create 
users, assign permissions and other simple stuff. No replication is happening 
and it's to the point that I cannot open the EMC.

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
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From: Brian Desmond 
[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]<mailto:[mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:13 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: in-depth AD

Does the machine boot?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com>

w - 312.625.1438<tel:312.625.1438> | c   - 312.731.3132<tel:312.731.3132>

From: Daniel Chenault 
[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]<mailto:[mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:54 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: in-depth AD

It's a long story, aren't they all, but the root of my issue is this: I am 
getting Event ID 447 for Database Corruption on ntds.dit. Microsoft is telling 
me to do an authoritative restore. Problem is this problem goes back to 
January; it is highly doubtful I can locate a backup pre-dating that time 
frame. I inherited this mess and am just trying to fix it. This corruption is 
causing several different problems (naturally).

What I want to know from the collective list wisdom and knowledge is... is it 
possible to use a tool, such as adsiedit, to locate a specific object (it is 
called out specifically in the aforementioned event) and 
edit/massage/delete/assassinate the object?

Because, as I see it, I have three choices at this point:

1)      Auth restore (highly unlikely)

2)      Edit/massage ntds.dit (maybe?)

3)      Recreate this entire domain from scratch (seven locations 
internationally, hundreds of users and computers, lord knows how many printers 
total, plus Exchange and Great Plains, permissions on umpty-hundred shares - 
just shoot me now)

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com<mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com>
Office: 972-528-6546 x 1002<tel:972-528-6546%20x%201002>
Fax:     972-982-0054<tel:972-982-0054>
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