"Kurt Buff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/30/2008 09:17:38 PM:

> If you have subscribed to the Firewall Wizards mailing list over the
> past, oh, 8 or 10 years, you'll note that folks like Marcus Ranum, and
> a whole host of others, have been bitching about this for a long time.

Speaking of Ranum:

http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/

Smart guy - I'm a fan. Him, Bruce Schneier and a few others - common sense 
security....

Eric Eskam
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