I know that you can use a VHDX over a SMB share... This can't be done with a VHD.
Other than that, I'm not sure. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:18:24 -0800 Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB > What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD? > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Michael B. Smith > <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote: > > > Server 2012 completely supports you just pointing to the old config > > files. You do not need to export/import.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > The major benefit you do not get is the upgrade to VHDX.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > > *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2012 9:12 AM > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB**** > > > > ** ** > > > > If the VM’s are not on the 2008R2 OS drive, is it necessary to > > export/import the VM’s, or could you just re-OS the 2008 R2 to 2012 and > > create new VM’s by pointing them to the VHD’s? I keep my guests simple > with > > no snapshots and when I create the VM I put all the files/settings in the > > same folder (D:\VMs1\Server1, for example), etc. I don’t know if that > will > > key off a reactivation of the OS or not, but it would save me about 5 > hours > > of waiting for files to copy back and forth.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > iSCSI or other external storage is really looking convenient right about > > now….**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com <asbz...@gmail.com>] > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:03 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB**** > > > > ** ** > > > > It's a cable that came with a firewall, too. But with the "CAT5" staring > > me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it. > > > > Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent > > most of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing 80% of > > my capacity before. :D**** > > > > ** ** > > > > I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the > > transfer rates.**** > > > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > *ASB > > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > > for the SMB market…***** > > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Art DeKneef <art.dekn...@cox.net> wrote:** > > ** > > > > Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs (60 > > feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well > getting > > average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests.**** > > > > **** > > > > Art**** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM**** > > > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB**** > > > > **** > > > > Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a > **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration? > > **** > > > > **** > > > > Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.**** > > > > **** > > > > Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.**** > > > > **** > > > > Sigh. I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught > > the CAT5 marking. Off to the printer it goes.**** > > > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > *ASB > > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > > for the SMB market…***** > > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > > wrote:**** > > > > I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012. > > No difference in the operation other than speed. The one that was off > was > > smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster. The one that was up > > continued to run without me losing more than a few pings. It was sweet. > :) > > **** > > > > **** > > > > Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it. We'll see how that > > goes. LOL The one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow > > for me. **** > > > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > *ASB > > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* > > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) > > for the SMB market…***** > > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:**** > > > > Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it, > > think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….**** > > > > **** > > > > Dave**** > > > > **** > > > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM**** > > > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues**** > > > > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB**** > > > > **** > > > > Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's > > looks like all is well. I'm going to practice moving around some VMs > using > > the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.**** > > > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > *ASB***** > > > > *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>**** > > > > *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB > market…***** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:**** > > > > It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being > > handled by the guest VM’s.**** > > > > **** > > > > *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM**** > > > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB**** > > > > **** > > > > I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it > > requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc....) then Hyper-V > server > > isn't what your looking for. **** > > > > *Christopher Bodnar* > > Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise > > Architecture and Engineering Services **** > > > > Tel 610-807-6459 > > 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 > > christopher_bod...@glic.com **** > > > > > > * > > The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America* > > * > > *www.guardianlife.com **** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: David Lum <david....@nwea.org> > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > > > > Date: 12/05/2012 01:48 PM > > Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB **** > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB: > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789 > > > > It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why > not > > go to 2012. > > > > Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I > > go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively > > server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking > anything > > obvious? > > > > I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least > > protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, > but > > technically simple. Time for more research. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Christopher Bodnar > [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<christopher_bod...@glic.com>] > > * > > Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM* > > To:* NT System Admin Issues* > > Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB > > > > And the Hyper-V version is free. **** > > > > *Christopher Bodnar* > > Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise > > Architecture and Engineering Services **** > > > > Tel 610-807-6459 > > 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 * > > *christopher_bod...@glic.com **** > > > > * > > > > The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America** > > > > *www.guardianlife.com **** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Mike Hoffman <m...@drumbrae.net> > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > > > > Date: 12/05/2012 11:28 AM > > Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB **** > > > > **** > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > What about 2012 – 4Tb limit. > > * > > From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org <david....@nwea.org>] * > > Sent:* 05 December 2012 16:15* > > To:* NT System Admin Issues* > > Subject:* Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB > > > > I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ > > 2008 R2 Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V > > guests? 64-bit Server Standard only recognizes 32GB… * > > David Lum* > > Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM > > Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 > > **** > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin **** > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin **** > > > > ----------------------------------------- This message, and any > > attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, > > confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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