Probably not wrong, 

 

But it all depends on how you manage your users, and usually its by
department/group/building/site etc etc. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I am by far no AD expert, and have limited multi-site experience, but
I've been taught that OU's should be aligned to allow easy
administration of each site.

 

I could be wrong?

 

The OU hierarchy does not need to reflect the departmental hierarchy of
the organization or group. OUs are created for a specific purpose, such
as the delegation of administration, the application of Group Policy, or
to limit the visibility of objects.

 

Credits (watch wrappage)

http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/7c66e932-5c5b-4f0
e-8e4a-c705ff7d95c11033.mspx?mfr=true

 

Mr Butler, please note: I gave credit where credit was due this time.
;-P

 

________________________________

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

Folks, 

 

OU's are organizational units, why in the world, wouldn't you align them
with the logical orientation of your network ( Whether it be buildings,
divisions, organizations etc etc). Yes Group policy is one benefit of
having OU's but Constrained/ delegated administration is another, and
there probably are about 5-10 more good reasons to have OU's. 

 

I don't know whom your instructor was and why he would say such things,
but OU's as you said should be flexible, and be used for what makes
sense to your network. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I too, would like to know why.

 

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's
should not mirror the organizational structure of a company.

He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be
100% true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized

in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera.
Nothing more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by
organization.

 

Les. 

 

________________________________

From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set
by area so that I can use GPOs to install software from different
servers based on where they are located (not server based administration
as Ken mentions). It has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if
Ken had a reason for his blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be
done. If a reason exists I would be interested to know what it is.

Tim

 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

 

-Brian

 

 

________________________________

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

I'm curious why you say that Ken.

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be
organising your servers into regional specific OUs.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

 

 

Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and
place everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me
anyways. So if I need to see all systems in a particular region or
location I navigate to that function or location specific OU and go from
there. Keep it simple, seriously! If you're dumping everything into one
OU then I can see how it'd be a problem. 

 

On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then
a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver,
Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as
it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info
he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a
number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
Naming everything "SRV1", "SRV2", and so on tends to be confusing.
For example, at my current main gig, we've got TIGER, PUMA, LION,
COUGAR,
and NTSERVER.  (Can you guess which one has the legacy app that just
don't
die? ;-) )  At my last main gig, we used Simpsons characters.  This
doesn't
scale up to large orgs, though, and if the place has a stuffy attitude
it's
not appropriate, either.  For the latter, I usually just use "ORGSVR1"
or
whatever.

RFC-1178 has some advice on this, although it's oriented more towards
DNS,
where the tree structure makes naming conflicts less of an issue.

> Currently we use location and function in the name, but what about a
> server that does more than one thing?

Use a more generic name, like "SRV" or "UTIL" or whatever.  Indeed, if
it's at all likely a server will be tasked with multiple things, I
always
try to go with the more generic name.  A server named one thing that's
really doing more is misleading.  Worse is when the original task then
gets
moved off, and now you have a server named "DC1" that isn't a DC
anymore, or
something like that.

-- Ben

 

 

 




















 




















 
 
 
    

 





















 
 
    
 
 
 

 

 




















 
 
    

 











 
    
 
 
 

 

 










 
    

 






 
    
 
 
 

 

 





 
    

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