We specifically told them we would be getting a similar MS presentation. The thing to keep in mind when comparing these 2 products from a high level is that you do get all the SCCM products in one suite now, which is fantastic (Orchestrator, VMM, etc...) but they are still separate applications. So for example you do get VMM for the view into your virtual infrastructure, but it's still a separate management piece. Where as Altiris it's all in one component. Especially for 3rd party patching, that seems very attractive.
Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Rod Trent" <rodtr...@myitforum.com> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Date: 01/17/2013 11:26 AM Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Did they approach it that way because you are a 2007 shop? Or, did they take 2012 into consideration for their demo? I say that because, 2012 with SP1 allows less infrastructure, views into the virtual infrastructure, patching for 3rd party apps, and client health (for Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix) has been greatly improved. The reporting thing, I can agree with. Looks to me like their competitor battle cards need to be updated. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations We didn't bring it in house for a POC, so I can't say from experience, just what we saw at the presentation. We are an SCCM 2007 shop. Some of the things that stood out about the Altiris product: Less infrastructure required Significantly easier and integrated reporting Direct views into virtual infrastructure Built in patching for 3rd party software (Adobe, Java, etc...) Less issues with client agent health Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Rod Trent" <rodtr...@myitforum.com> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > Date: 01/17/2013 09:54 AM Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations I’m curious. What impressed you about Altiris? I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since the Symantec acquisition. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to say I was impressed by Altiris. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Rod Trent" <rodtr...@myitforum.com> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > Date: 01/17/2013 09:09 AM Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations I’d take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday’s news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: "Charlie Kaiser" <charl...@golden-eagle.org> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > Date: 01/16/2013 06:04 PM Subject: Patch management recommendations I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the "ease" of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? 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