Not the way I read it, but it's not well written, so I could easily be
wrong, and sincerely hope you're correct. That would simplify things a
great deal.

Thanks,

Kurt

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Patrick Salmon <psal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not quite correct. As I understand it, only control and management traffic
> goes between the WLC & AP. Everything else (ie client traffic) goes direct.
>
> If you have any AP's hanging off the PoE port and need to free one up think
> about using a power injector instead. Not ideal and may not be suitable to
> the location of the AP, but definitely an option.
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the input.
>>
>> I knew about the conversion from autonomous to lightweight, and have
>> the manual that describes the process, as noted below.
>>
>> I already have in place the necessary VLANs - one each for management
>> (which is shared among all switches), production wireless and guest
>> wireless. VoIP never touches the WAPs - that's on another VLAN
>> entirely. I'm assuming that the current management VLAN is a
>> reasonable choice for managing the WLC and WAPS.
>>
>> I'm just talking aloud for the rest of this - it's wandering pretty
>> far OT for the list, though some might not mind...
>>
>> Unfortunately I can't do the lag for the WLC directly on our L3 switch
>> - it's a 48 port HP 3400cl, and it's completely full, including the
>> three PoE switches used for the WAPs. However, I have a 48 port gb
>> switch that sits between the L3 switch and the firewall that has
>> plenty of ports free, though, so that might be where I place the lag
>> for the WLC.
>>
>> This presents another set of choices:
>>
>> o- I can leave the PoE switches on the L3 switch, and put the WLC in
>> the intermediary switch - this seems less than ideal, as it would
>> force a round trip for the wireless data, since all WAP traffic passes
>> through the WLC
>> or
>> o- I could move the PoE switches to the intermediary switch along with
>> the WLC and either
>>      o- Limit connectivity for the WAPs to the current single gb
>> connection between the L3 switch and the intermediary switch.
>>      or
>>      o- After moving the three PoE switches off of the L3 to the
>> intermediary switch, reconfigured the connection between the L3 switch
>> and the intermediary as a 3-port lag
>>
>> Also, according to the manuals, I'm have to set up a new DHCP scope
>> for the management VLAN - prior to this all of the equipment on that
>> VLAN has had their IP addresses set statically (including the WAPs).
>> I'm not entirely happy with that, but I haven't yet seen a way around
>> it.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Glen Johnson <gjohn...@vhcc.edu> wrote:
>> > We did this a few years back with a 5508 controller and several aps.
>> > Basically, you will need one vlan for the aps to talk to the controller.
>> > You will have to convert the access points to light weight aps.
>> > That wasn't very intuitive, so here is a link.
>> >
>> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.2/configuration/guide/cg_lwap.html#wp1345331
>> >
>> > The controller handles the routing between the ap vlan and the other
>> > vlan's that the clients will use.
>> > What we did is set 4 ports on the controller in a lag, connected to 4
>> > ports on our core switch.  You will need 7.4 or higher code on the 2504 to
>> > support lag with its 4 ports.
>> > The allowed vlans on this port group are, the controller to ap vlan,
>> > data vlan for laptops, open access vlan for the public and voice vlan for 
>> > ip
>> > phones.
>> > Good luck.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:00 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: SemiOT: Cisco 2504 WLC tips?
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I'm the happy recipient of this beastie, and I'm reading through a bunch
>> > of manuals for it, trying to figure out a good approach for transforming 
>> > our
>> > 15 x 1240AG WAPs into a cohesive group, rather than managing them
>> > individually.
>> >
>> > The WAPs are spread across three HP 2800 PWR switches, and carry three
>> > VLANs each (one is the management VLAN (wired side only) and two are
>> > broadcast with different SSIDs - a guest network and a production network,
>> > both using WPA PSK).
>> >
>> > First step is to get one of the WAPs talking to the WLC, then once
>> > that's working, change over the rest, and then I'm going to introduce 
>> > 802.1x
>> > in a new SSID, and start switching all of the production wireless to it, 
>> > and
>> > (I hope, depending on whether or not our barcode scanners will support
>> > 802.1x) eliminate the extra SSID.
>> >
>> > But, I'm finding I have some questions that the manuals aren't
>> > addressing. For instance, the unit has two standard 1g ports and 2 PoE 1g
>> > ports. One needs to be the management port, but should I connect the other
>> > ports to each of my three switches? Each of the switches has a connection 
>> > to
>> > my layer3 switch. Should I connect the management port to the L3 switch, 
>> > and
>> > out the WLC between the switches and the L3 switch, or should I just 
>> > connect
>> > the 3 non-management ports to the switches?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have some pointers on setting this up?
>> >
>> > So far, I've found and read most or all of each of these:
>> >
>> > Cisco2500SeriesWirelessControllerDeploymentGuide
>> > Cisco2500SeriesWirelessControllerGettingStartedGuide
>> > CiscoWirelessLANControllerConfigurationGuide7_2
>> > ConvertAutonomousWAPstoLightweightMode7_2
>> >
>> > I have browsed through these:
>> >
>> > CiscoWirelessControlSystemConfigurationGuide_Release7.0.172.0
>> > CiscoLocationApplianceConfigurationGuide_Release6.0
>> >
>> >
>> > Haven't touched these yet:
>> > CiscoLocationApplianceConfigurationGuide_Release6.0
>> > Cisco_SBA_BN_WirelessLANCleanAirDeploymentGuide-Aug2012
>> >
>> > Any thoughts, on or off list, would be appreciated - even if it's a
>> > pointer to a Cisco list or forum.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
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