I thought that the DOD no longer recognized disk wiping as an acceptable
means of sanitization, and that the only recognized methods now included
physical destruction of said disk?  Or maybe that was the Pentagon . . .
btw, that document is over 2 years old . . .

James Winzenz
Infrastructure Engineer - Security
Pulte Homes Information Services


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:34 AM
Posted To: NTSysadmin
Conversation: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?
Subject: RE: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?

Right, I meant sanitization when I said wipe.  I've looked at those
pages, and agree with the requirements, but there's really nothing
specified in that document on how a hard drive should be erased, simply
that "IS resources shall be sanitized before they are released from
classified information controls or released for use at a lower
classification level."

I'm just not sure why you're using that as an end-all/be-all reference
in your statement "Accept no substitutes."  Wouldn't it be better to
have some sort of reference that tells you to what degree you have to go
in order to declare the media sanitized?  I'm not trying to flame you,
or anything, but it just kind of bothers me that people cite references
that don't really say anything.


Joe Heaton

-----Original Message-----
From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?

53,54,58-61,66,69,84 all talk about media an in 58-61 it talks about
cleaning and sanitation of the media but wiping is not mentioned....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Heaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?


Where exactly in that 106 page document does it tell you about hard
drive erasure, other than the one liner that says that media should be
wiped?  Maybe I just missed it...


Joe Heaton

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?

DoD Requirements for Hard Drive erasure.
Accept no substitutes.
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/522022mchaps.pdf

Either that, or as Terry stated, destroy the drive and buy a new one.

Christopher J. Bosak
Vector Company
c. 847.603.4673
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 09:45 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?

I do not think you are defeating anything putting a ghost image back on.
We also use Killdisk for our Sata Drives we have a hardware device for
the IDE Drives.  These programs and devices make it harder to recover
old data.  I have heard the data can be written over 7 or more times and
still be recovered under the right circumstances.

Complying with the Auditors usually makes you life easier.  I would
continue to do this unless you come up with something better, and by
better I would say maybe more secure like a 7 or more times wipe.  Or
just remove and destroy the drive.  At the current price of new drives
it would be almost cheaper to replace the drive with a new one rather
than taking the time to wipe 3+ times.



-----Original Message-----
From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: KillDisk and Symantec Ghost?

I have KillDisk and run it three times on a machine. (Free version) Then
I ghost an image onto the machine.
Am I defeating the KillDisk by using the ghosted image of an old machine
or could I even reimage the machine after KillDisking and Ghosting the
old image to create a new KillDisked/Ghosted machine?

I am wanting to comply with auditors on wiping the drive at least three
times and putting XP pro back on the machine using a ghosted image.

Any recommendations?





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but keeping IT working is the hard part.

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