I agree, and you are going to have to prove to them as we have had to
over and over there really isnt a difference between the OS on Virtual
land and the Physical world which is where there application works in.
The only time we have has to revert is systems that where higher Java
dependent and ran like DOG's in VM environment, once on physical worked
perfectly normal. And I got 300+ VM servers in production. 

The trick we use is we don't even tell them they are on a VM, just give
them RDP access and tell them to set it up. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

I suspect that the vendor just doesn't want the added layer of
complexity that comes with VMs. But vendors are going to have to move
past that fear as more and more customers migrate to virtualized
environments.

I'll keep an eye out for JVM apps...





-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

Its probably because the vendor doesn't know anything about VM's, and
wants it on physical hardware, either that or it probably runs JVM which
notoriously doesn't work all that well with VM's I know this well from
te ESX world. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

I was looking over the system requirements for a particular piece of
software we're looking at purchasing, and I noticed that it specifically
says it has to be on a physical (non-virtual) machine.

Now, this software doesn't have any special hardware requirements.
Processor requirements are modest, as are requirements for RAM and
storage space. And yet, the requirements explicitly say, "Microsoft
Windows Server 2008 Standard or Enterprise without Hyper-V" (if Server
2008 is the OS--it also supports Server 2003, XP, or Vista as the server
OS).

As I've mentioned before, I'm brand new to server virtualization. I'm
playing with Hyper-V right now for the first time. So, I'm sure I'm
missing something.

Why, exactly, would a product like this not work on a virtual server?




John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us


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