A hole that covers everyone of their OS's???

They need to hire more hackers. I think that 50 billion in cash would cover a 
few of them.

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From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch ?

I see ya point, my real point is why don't they have pen-testers on
staff, looking at there systems trying to find the exploits and fix them
before the bad-guys do. I mean hiring some security researchers on staff
and have them pen-test the non-sense out of your software could go a
long way in keeping stuff secure..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch ?

Fax = fix

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch ?

I'm not sure I would agree with that. Developing a fix isn't a 15 minute
job. The chances are they were already hard at work on it. There is a
ton of
compatibility and regression testing that goes into a fax.
They probably got their hand forced because it was out in the wild, but
I
wouldn't go so far as imply they were just sitting around on their asses
until something happened.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch ?

Yeah someone lit a fire under MSFT arse and they got with the program on
this one, but only after they detected systems getting exploited in the
wild. Why they didn't determine this flaw back when they patched 06-040
for the same type of issue we probably will never know...

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch ?

Taking this in a slightly different direction...

I told the IT Director and COO yesterday that I was patching all
servers, and sending an email to all of the laptop users to do the
same.

They were a bit skeptical, but not only did the emails that I
forwarded them from various lists buttress my opinion, this morning I
got forwarded a voicemail by the IT Director, from a rep at MSFT. Gist
of the message - MSFT is taking this extremely seriously, and you
should patch now.

Director's comments was "nice job, good of you to jump on this."

Anyone else get a call like this from MSFT? It's the first time I've
heard of them doing this, and I take it as a really good sign - MSFT
is finally getting the real clue about this stuff.

Kurt

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Oliver Marshall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chaps,
>
> The update that was sent out last night, has that caused any issues
> elsewhere? We've had a spate of calls from users about problems today,
> several servers which were set to auto-update for various reasons have
> had varying levels of failure. It's mentally busy here for a Friday,
and
> the one thing they have in common is that all the machine rebooted for
> an update last night.
>
> Is it just us ?
>
> Olly

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