The major point to me *is* the UAC, so thats not a viable option for me. But I will tell you a couple things that seriously bother me about Vista:
If I run an app from USB-based device (S3, portable drive, etc), I have to run it as administrator AND I still may not be able to write data back to that same device (it depends on the app if this happens or not - why? what circumstance? I dunno still). Also, for example, something changed on my computer in the past two weeks where I can no longer run Steam (a game application platform) without running it as Administrator. If I dont, my chosen game won't load. Installed with proper admin privs, this all worked worked before. Now it breaks. I know its Vista security-related, but there is an unbelievable lack of detail or indication as to why in the error messages. At least I have a basic understanding as to what the problem is, but there are loads of people in forums that are completely and utterly frustrated because they do not. The answer for Vista application issues is almost always "run it as administrator". Even though as in this case, it shouldn't be necessary after proper installation, and isn't necessary on say... XP. Windows 7 had better take these things into better consideration, or Microsoft will continue to lose the non-tech masses that don't need anything beyond basic computing and web. Because Vista is not worth dealing with for that. I appreciate what they are doing and striving for, but good lord how did this get released like this? Did no one expect usability issues with common people? And honestly: I can run XP minimally in ~220mb RAM. Why the holy #$%! does Vista take ~1.4gb ?! Rant mode off. -- ME2 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As long as you don't need to boot and once you disable UAC, it's not bad. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:49 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Going back to XP? > > I like Vista, it has some very nice perks, but it also has some > serious usability flaws until you start disabling security features. > > From a security perspective, I'd still keep it and recommend it over XP. > > -- > ME2 > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Eric Wittersheim > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have the same question. Vista is starting to grow on me at home. I > still >> use XP Pro at work. But at home I run multiple Vista Utlimate and one > Vista >> Home Premimum (as well as XP Pro and Media Center 2005) and the interface > is >> starting to grow on me, especially Media Center. >> >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Stefan Jafs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Out of curiosity why would you "obviously" want to go back to XP? >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________ >>> >>> Stefan Jafs >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Sean Rector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:58 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Going back to XP? >>> >>> >>> >>> I've been buying my systems this year like this - you have to specify >>> Vista Business with the XP Downgrade option. If you don't, you can't >>> downgrade. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sean Rector, MCSE >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:51 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Going back to XP? >>> >>> >>> >>> Was this purchased through a business? Dell is still selling XP as a >>> downgrade if you ask for it. >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe you have to have Vista Business or higher to downgrade and it >>> has to be valid XP software, meaning it can't be one you got with another >>> computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:47 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Going back to XP? >>> >>> >>> >>> Because I don't feel anyone on this list has anything better to do than > to >>> answer my silly questions. J >>> >>> >>> >>> Just took delivery of my first Dell in years (I've been using HP >>> Workstations for about 6 years but wanted to give Dell a try again.) >>> >>> >>> >>> It's one of their gaming systems, actually, but it will do well for my >>> graphics work. 3GHz Core2 Extreme processor overclocked to 3.67GHz, 4GB > of >>> RAM, dual 750GB hard drives, dual 1024MB ATI Radeon graphics cards, etc. >>> etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sounds nice, right? >>> >>> >>> >>> Also comes with Windows Vista (there was, of course, no other option when >>> ordering.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Great, so I feel like I bought a new Cadillac and the nav system is a >>> Lite-Brite with dysfunctional pegs. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, what I'd like to do, obviously, is go back to XP. But I'm wondering > if >>> there is any legal way to do so? I know I can't transfer an XP license > from >>> my old system that had XP on it, and I don't think I can buy XP at stores >>> anymore. >>> >>> >>> >>> Does Microsoft still allow you to "downgrade" (as if going from a Lite >>> Brite with dysfunctional pegs to a working Etch-A-Sketch is a downgrade) >>> from Vista to XP if you call them? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Evan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Information Technology Manager >>> Virginia Opera Association >>> >>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Phone: (757) 213-4548 (direct line) >>> {*} >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely > for >>> the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should > not >>> read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions > expressed >>> in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of >>> the Amico Corporation. 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