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-----Original Message----- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? If I had the cash sitting around I'd be buying real estate right now, that's for sure. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer ______________________________________________ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Very true...The myth that the rich just hide their money under their mattresses so that they can stay rich is usually told by those with little as a way to make it OK to hate/blame the rich for their problems. The rich in this country, on whole, did not get that way by sticking money under their mattress, but rather by working their tails off and making wise investment choices. They continue to do that regardless of the state of the economy. It is the poorer citizens who tend to save and refuse to spend when times get tough. This is why giving out money to the middle class to spend our way out of a recession has never worked once in the history of our country. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Some of those with money to invest do so aggressively during a downturn because right now stocks and real estate are on sale. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer ______________________________________________ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Peter Rabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Trickle-down effect - When the economy tanks the first people to suffer are those who have little because they received little, a trickle, when the economy was good. Those who have money to invest, invest minimally in expansion during an economic downturn as they are protecting their assets. -----Original Message----- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 31, 2008 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? But for businesses to expand, build new factories, etc. they need capital. For that they have to go to the marketplace either thru commercial paper, IPO's or other financial instruments. Increasing taxes on those who supply that capital means less capital to go around. Taxing businesses is a false argument. Businesses don't pay for anything. Their customers do. Also, there are a lot of dollars overseas because the cost (tax) to repatriate those dollars is very high. So, the companies keep the money over there. Yes, the rich put the money away. In investments, bonds, stock market, etc. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? I would think lowing taxes to increase government revenue would only work if the money is funneled back into the US economy in a productive way. So if the money from tax cuts is distributed to big corporations who use it to invest in offshore projects, and the benefits of that investment stay mostly in that country, that doesn't really help us. If you cut taxes on the very upper tier of the income brackets, and they just put that money away to increase their personal capital or sock it away in other countries so as to avoid paying taxes on the income it generates, that doesn't help us either. Now if you cut taxes for lower and middle class Americans, and small businesses, they will spend that extra money. Then it is productive and increases demand, which produces jobs, and increases government revenue. Anyway that's how I see it. Trickle down economics doesn't work. If you believe the people who say it does, take a careful look at which end of the income spectrum they are on - maybe they have a reason for wanting you to believe it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:41 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > Except for the fact, that lowering taxes is how you increase revenue to > the government. Raising taxes lowers revenue. The problems that Bush has > caused are not due to tax cuts, but rather the fact that he grew the > federal government faster and bigger than most liberals would have (even > honest conservatives will tell you he stunk that one up). > TVK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:23 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > We are a broke nation. We need a tax increase - like it or not. Maybe > they can be lowered again if/when we have another surplus. But right > now there are nations (primarily China) who have the potential to > financially dismantle us. 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