I throw my experience in the mix:

Dell DRAC cards are terrible at Auto-Neg FYI.  That the only time I have
had an issue recently.  

Way back in the day, I worked in IT for a major University, and the old
Macs COULDN'T auto at all.  The major pain was not the fact that it
negotiated the wrong speed, but it wouldn't negotiate ANYTHING, which
would break the link altogether.  Cisco switches.   


Sam




-----Original Message-----
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why would you set a NIC to 100/full or Auto?

Anything made in the past 5 years works great with autonegotiate. You
just need to make sure neither side is hard set - that's the only time
I see issues.  On older equipment, I've found it works best if they
are both hard set to the same thing. But nowadays, we just set
everything to auto and it works flawlessly.

On 11/21/08, Steven Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Auto-negotiation sucks.  It is unreliable and intermittent and when it
> doesn't work, you have weird issues.  It's just not worth it on
> servers.  Set servers speed and duplex manually at the server and
> switch and life will be so much better.
>
> Steven
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Webb, Brian (Corp)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In my experience, autonegotiation works great for speed, but for
duplex it
>> depends on what the other device is set to.
>>
>> If both devices are set to AUTO then it works
>>
>> If both devices are set to a fixed duplex then it works
>>
>> If one device is set to a fixed speed/duplex and the other is set to
AUTO
>> then the speed is negotiated properly, but the duplex is negotiated
to
>> half
>> and if the fixed end is set to FULL then you have problems.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:37 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Why would you set a NIC to 100/full or Auto?
>>
>> I heard 2 arguments and both seem valid.   I find it a pain to have
to go
>> back in and set NIC speed on the switch and server/PC.   Over wire
builds
>> suck (WDS) for speed etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.       Was that in old days the NIC chips had hard time negotiating
and
>> it
>> is no longer needed, except that it would be good practice for
servers
>> which
>> rarely change.
>>
>> 2.       The other was that the auto-negotiate packets are 30% of the
>> broadcast packets and by removing all doubt, they lessen the traffic.
>>
>>
>>
>> What exactly is the real story?    I never had to set this before on
the
>> pc
>> side of the LAN.
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Luke L. Brumbaugh
>>
>> Network Engineer
>>
>> Butler Animal Health Supply
>>
>> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>>
>>
>>
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