I agree with what you are saying JC (at least I think I am understanding correctly). I understand them not supporting the actually install of DPM Server on Datacenter edition, but I don't understand the fact that they don't support installation of the client on a Datacenter server. The fact that I don't want to waste a DC license to install DPM doesn't mean that I don't to back up other apps that may be running there. TVK
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM We're a non-profit, the Datacenter license was ridiculously cheap. I was not aware of the option to use lesser versions, thx for the info. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM No, I know that you are right. The point is that you can run an unlimited number of Windows Server in VM of the single copy you purchased. Windows Server as in Standard, Enterprise and Datacenter Edition. I know alot of people with Datacenter licensed purely for virtualization rights. I doubt a fraction of those ever installed Datacenter Edition though. VM's usually dont scale far enough to need Datacenter edition installed. If you lack media or keys for the other editions, talk to your reseller and he should be able to hook you up. See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/news/bulletins/datacenterhighavail.mspx Anders On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:15 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote: Because unless I was seriously misled by my software reseller I can run an unlimited number of copies of Datacenter in VM off the single copy I purchased. Anyone that KNOWS (as opposed to thinks) different please educate me. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com<mailto:chanks...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM Sure they did. A server licensed for Datacenter Edition can run any number of Standard, Enterprise or Datacenter edition vm's. Given that you probably wont the capabilities for Enterprise Edition in a vm during the lifetime of dpm 2007, there's no reason to run DataCenter there. (That I can think of, please educate me. :) Anders On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:36 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote: The designers obviously never got the memo on Datacenter Licensing in a VM..... John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com<mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com>] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM This is because DPM is intended to be run on a dedicated server. The designers could not imagine that someone would "waste" a data-center license for a dedicated DPM server. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael> I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com<mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com>] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM I'm investigating. I suspect I know why, but I'll try to get a definitive answer. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael> I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM (Hijacking thread) As a side note I found out something very disturbing about DPM - it's not supported on 2008 Datacenter Edition, it won't even install. Why it will work on lesser versions but not the top of the line is really is beyond me but I had to restructure my deployment because of this - thank god for VMWare! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com<mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com>] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM (tongue in cheek) With all that information, I'll give you a definite: maybe. If you can see it on a Windows server, then DPM can "recognize" it. That doesn't mean that DPM will be able to do anything other than a normal non-smart backup to it, if it doesn't support either open file agents or VSS. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael> I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com<mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com>] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MS DPM Is it possible for MS DPM to recognize a 3rd party NAS? It doesn't have a MS OS. 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