Thanks for the insight, we aren't doing SMS right now, and doubt we would be 
going forward with SMS as part of this, I mainly view SMS as the patching and 
application deployement piece of the puzzle and yes it can get configurations 
from the system, but the price for the amount of nodes I am dealing with 7K+ is 
going to be far too expensive for purchase atm. 

 

If I could get SCOM/SCCM in house and tie this back into compliance and 
configuration management and standardization across the farm and workstations 
as an end-state and get them to buy-in on that long-term strategy then it might 
work. Again this is healthcare, and I am not optimistic that the $$ are going 
to be there even if the solution does work. 

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

________________________________

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Using System Center for Management of about 700 Windows File 
Servers Your thoughts?

 

That's SMS/SCCM + SCOM. 

 

Expect to need a good amount of practice/specialized training to manage either 
of them if you haven't before - they're both very complex applications. There 
are a limited number of people out there who really know either of them so it's 
a worthwhile set of skills to develop IMO. I have not seen many customers who 
do either of these apps remotely "right". 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Using System Center for Management of about 700 Windows File 
Servers Your thoughts?

 

Three main problems, 

 

Configuration Management ( ability to set configuration settings, jobs, etc etc 
and let them apply to the entire farm from one central console across 5 
datacenters)

Systems Performance Monitoring ( Instead of me having 6-10 Perfmon mmc's open 
looking at systems, I set the performance monitor baselines I want to see on 
the servers and when they go outside the parameters, I am alerted via central 
console)

Eventlog Management and Reporting.  ( Need to be able to parse the eventlogs 
and achive and store them for compliance and security efforts across the farm)

 

Compliance measuring would be a added benefit. 

 

HTH
Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

________________________________

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Using System Center for Management of about 700 Windows File 
Servers Your thoughts?

 

Well the question I'd ask you is what problem(s) are you trying to solve with 
this product?

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ 
<http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/> 

Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian 
<https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian> 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Using System Center for Management of about 700 Windows File Servers 
Your thoughts?
Importance: High

 

We are having Microsoft coming in to talk with us about Systems Center for 
Management of our ever-growing server farm, for those using it, please feel 
free to give me your pro's con's and tales from the trenches on what this 
platform said it will do, and what it really does when the rubber hits the 
road. 

 

My Mix of servers are ½ physical ½ virtual, SQL (2000/2005), IIS (5&6), File 
and Print (2000-2008), DC's (2003), Application servers ( 3rd party) (2000/2003)

 

TVK, I especially want to hear your thoughts on this subject, since this is 
your MVP realm and you tend to know the most about the features and 
functionality. 

 

TIA in advance, 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505

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