Have received no emails from you offline, sorry to report.

Also, your message, as you can see below, is a bit hard to read, with
some funky characters spoiling things.

I will take a look at the Debug Tools for Windows and take a look.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 13:58, Brian Desmond <br...@briandesmond.com> wrote:
>
> Kurt-
>
>
>
> Is pooltag.txt in that archive I sent you offline?
>
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>
> If not, install the Debug Tools for Windows (free download) and go in the 
> triage folder ÿÿ“ pooltag.txt has a dictionary so to speak of all the MS tags
>
>
>
> Sÿÿ ÿ  - nt!sÿÿ ÿÿÂÿÿ ÿÿÂÿÿ  - General security allocations
>
>
>
> Allocs isnÿÿ™t really terribly interesting, what is is the number of bytes 
> allocated which in this case is ~232MB. That is not normal. I have no idea 
> what this one is ÿÿ“ itÿÿ™s not somethingÿÿâÿ™ve seen before and ÿÿâÿ™s not 
> normal. I would be inclined to tell you to call PSS and let them work on it. 
> I know how to get the stacks for the allocations with a live debug but 
> thatÿÿ™s fairly involved as things go.
>
>
>
> MmSt is associated with memory tracking shared files (in a nutshellÿÿâÿ“ 
> looks ok in your snapshot.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Desmond
>
> br...@briandesmond.com
>
>
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> c - 312.731.3132
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>
>
> Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
>
> Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian
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>
>
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:46 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Pool consumption (was: Re: Virtualized server issue...)
>
>
>
> Have added the reg entry, and am examining poolmon output.
>
> The server needed to be rebooted again today, so the reg entry should now be 
> active. I note that in perfmon Pool Paged Allocs for this machine had slammed 
> to the ceiling, although nothing else seemed to be
>
> Poolmon is proving problematic - I've examined the top two memory eaters, and 
> am either getting too many or no hits.
>
> At 10:12 this morning, I took this reading, and a few minutes later had to 
> reboot the box.
>
> Memory: 1047456K Avail:  220432K  PageFlts:    47   InRam Krnl: 2912K 
> P:281220K
> Commit: 570560K Limit:3053000K Peak: 580612K            Pool N:35804K 
> P:282140K
> System pool information
> Tag  Type     Allocs            Frees            Diff   Bytes       Per Alloc
>
> Se   Paged  13914251 (   0)   1770996 (   0) 12143255 243309424 (     0)     
> 20
> MmSt Paged    755490 (   9)    753741 (   9)     1749 15544008 (     0)   8887
>
> Memory: 1047456K Avail:  229772K  PageFlts:    66   InRam Krnl: 2912K 
> P:281000K
> Commit: 570396K Limit:3053000K Peak: 580612K            Pool N:35776K 
> P:281920K
> System pool information
> Tag  Type     Allocs            Frees            Diff   Bytes       Per Alloc
>
> MmCm Nonp       1090 (   0)        15 (   0)     1075 7864864 (     0)   7316
> LSwi Nonp          1 (   0)         0 (   0)        1 2576384 (     0) 2576384
>
> As the winner and new champeen, Se is at least an order of magnitude larger 
> than its closes competitor. However, the Se tag is in lots of files, so I 
> prefixed it in the findstr command with 'h' per the KB article. That narrowed 
> it considerably, but what's left pretty much looks to be MSFT files, and 
> there are still 21 files.
>
> MsSt is simply not found anywhere, nor is MmCm,. though LSwi shows in srv.sys 
> - I note that the Se tag is also found in the latter.
>
> Later today, perhaps after standard business hours, I'll reenable Active 
> Protection for VIPRE on this machine, and copy a lot of files to it. If 
> that's the issue, it should start spiking pretty quickly.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 15:29, Brian Desmond <br...@briandesmond.com> wrote:
> > Kurt-
> >
> > Can you add the http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244139 CrashOnCtrlScroll 
> > registry value and reboot? This will allow you to generate a dump next time 
> > this happens (the hang, specifically) by pressing the /right/ Ctrl key and 
> > Scroll Lock twice.
> >
> > Also, Poolmon can help tremendously here too for logging.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian Desmond
> > br...@briandesmond.com
> >
> > c - 312.731.3132
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:00 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Virtualized server issue...
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Over the weekend we virtualized our file/print server, and it seemed
> > to go well. Host is a Dell machine running ESX 3.5 update 2.
> >
> > The physical machine has an Intel HT processor and 1gbyte of RAM. I
> > gave the VM 2 procs and 2gbytes of RAM, just for good measure.
> >
> > Both machines were talking to our LeftHand SAN, on a separate physical
> > LAN, but today I had to reboot the VM, then a couple of hours later
> > shut it down and revert to the physical machine after it stopped
> > responding.
> >
> > The logs were indicating lack of server memory - specifically, these
> > were being emitted to my syslog server:
> >
> > 2009-03-30 14:05:12     User.Notice     home-01     Mar 30 14:05:12
> > home-01 MSWinEventLog   1   System  13892   Mon Mar 30 14:05:08 2009
> >     2020    Srv     Unknown User    N/A Error   HOME-01     None
> > 0000: 00 00 04 00 01 00 54 00   .......  0008: 00 00 00 00 e4 07 00 c0
> >  ........  0010: 00 00 00 00 9a 00 00 c0   ........  0018: 00 00 00
> > 00 00 00 00 00   ........  0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ........
> > 0028: ae 04 00 00 d0 02 70 00   .......      The server was unable to
> > allocate from the system paged pool because the pool was empty.
> >
> > Then this, as I tried to log in to shut it down:
> >
> > 2009-03-30 14:09:39     User.Notice     zet-home-01     Mar 30
> > 14:09:39 zet-home-01 MSWinEventLog   1   Application     13935   Mon
> > Mar 30 14:09:39 2009        1512    Userenv SYSTEM  User
> > Error   ZET-HOME-01     None            Windows cannot unload your
> > registry file. The memory used by the registry has not been freed.
> > This is often caused by services running as a user account, try
> > configuring the services to run in either the LocalService or
> > NetworkService account. If this problem persists, contact your
> > administrator.        DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to
> > complete the requested service.    30
> >
> >
> > and couldn't log in - I had to use psshutdown to make it go.
> >
> > I was starting to troubleshoot the paged pool issue, but didn't get
> > far enough into it before it required kick, and I reverted to the
> > physical box.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas what might have been the problem, or where I can
> > start to look for clues?
> >
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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