I have been listing to that trash from the luser for years. What he and you have said may or may not be true. THAT was not the point. He had that agurment ripped out of his hands and it is not up to him or me if he runs AV or not people MUCH higher up the chain and passed down that ALL systems will have AV installed. The AV must do on-access, on-demand, and scheduled scans, end of discussion. To be honest I am tired of listening to that. Put as many Mac's in the wild as there are Windows systems and you will find as many holes (if not more) as you will find on the currnet Windows OS's. The biggest target is the one people shoot at not the smallest. Factor in the lusers desire to install every piece of trash they see on the Internet and you have just as big of a problem. I caught the user last week playing with some kind of a package that could not shut up. His Mac crashed the network and 3 of the servers. Killed his port on the switch and like magic network problems stopped.
Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>wrote: > *nix (Unix, Linux, *BSD) is much more difficult to infect, as you don't > automatically have "admin" privileges the way you do in the Windows world. > By default when you create a new account on a stand-alone PC, that account > has Admin privileges which most viruses and other malware can exploit to > infect the O/S. > Unix-based operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS/X, etc) do > not > give normal users the right to run code with elevated privileges, which is > what would be needed to infect the O/S. Let's say you wanted to install a > piece of software. Under most unix-based operating systems (I'm not > familiar > with *all* variants, so I'm saying "most" to cover my butt) you have to be > "root" or equivalent to install software. The O/S won't LET you install > software. > In Windows most users have the ability to install software (unless they are > specifically denied that by virtue of having been given special reduced > privileges.) > That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just > that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:38 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware > > " For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be > exact, > I think.)" > > Please to be explaining. > > > -sc > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware > > That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is > "we > don't need antivirus/anti-malware." For the most part that is true, as OS X > is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has > been > some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that > warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. > > My suggestion would be to check the "usual suspects": McAfee, AVG, Symantec > (YUCK!), etc. > > I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I > found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and > host > of the free on-line virus scanner "antivirus.com") makes a Mac version of > their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find > it than with Windows anti-malware. J > > > > > > > > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Mac Anti-Malware > > > > What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience > with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for > one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? > > > > Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. > > > > Jon Harris > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 > 05:53:00 > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 > 05:53:00 > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
