We (the "royal we" - I wasn't part of the acquisition process) thought
that Verizon was giving us BES. "We" were wrong - it's BPS, and it
left a bad taste in our mouths...

Make sure you double check what you're getting.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:24, John Cook<john.c...@pfsf.org> wrote:
> We got our BES software free, talk to your provider. YMMV
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rod Trent
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thu Jul 30 14:16:27 2009
> Subject: RE: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
> Theÿÿâÿ™s simply too many clients who wÿÿâÿ™t spend the money on BES.
>
>
>
> From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
>
>
> Someone actually uses the redirector?  We've tossed that away many moons
> ago.  It's BES or the highway.  Really the cat's meow.
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rod Trent <rodtr...@myitforum.com> wrote:
>
> Disclaimer: Just my *OPINION*, herÿÿ€¦
>
>
>
> Never had any experience with a Blackberry first hand until the past 6
> months or so, but ÿÿ€™ve had enough experience now with numerous models that
> it really frustrates me.  The interface is horrid, and navigation feels like
> running fingernails across a blackboard.  The desktop redirector should be
> packaged up in a stool sample bottle and sent away for testing.
>
>
>
> The only redeeming qualityÿÿâÿ™ve found is the battery lifeÿÿ€“ which is
> excellent for what all the Blackberry is actually doing in the background.
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:44 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
>
>
> Using Blackberry too, I am sure there si going to be more fallout from
> Microsoÿÿâÿ™s ATL blunderÿÿ¦
>
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> Z
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> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
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>
> From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
>
>
> + 1,000,000 and I have made some $$ on the RIM stock
>
>
>
> ___________________________________
>
> Stefan Jafs
>
>
>
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
>
>
> Blackberries rule the world!
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Andy Ognenoff
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thu Jul 30 13:31:33 2009
> Subject: RE: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
> From what I've read, its not just the iPhone, Windows Mobile and Android are
> vulnerable to a similar attack discovered on Monday by the same guys.
>
>
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218800192
>
>
>
>
>
>  - Andy O.
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>
>>From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:06 PM
>
>>To: NT System Admin Issues
>
>>Subject: I hope you dont have an Iphone... you going to get 0wned.
>
>>
>
>>http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072909-iphone-sms-attack-to-be.htm
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>>l?source=NWWNLE_nlt_security_strategies_2009-07-30
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>>
>
>>New Attack on Iphone to be released at Blackhat, basically will 0wn the
>
>>Iphone and lead to your data/info etc etc going bye bye.
>
>>
>
>>Z
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>
>>Edward Ziots
>
>>Network Engineer
>
>>Lifespan Organization
>
>>MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
>>ezi...@lifespan.org
>
>>Phone:401-639-3505
>
>>
>
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