Maybe I'm being obtuse, but you didn't state all of your objectives clearly. The backup wasn't a requirement until later in your thread, as well as the anti-virus/backup plugin issue. You also left off a no-hosting requirement, because you were bringing it back in house. I get the impression that you don't know what you want, except that you don't want Exchange, for reasons that haven't been effectuviley articulated and seem to be poorly defined upfront to those trying to assist you.
-Jonathan On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>wrote: > Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with > NTBackup. > :-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific... If you want to be > able to back up mailbox by mailbox, etc. you have to "pay to play" with > Exchange. Other email server software, no so much. :-) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Mail server software > > Not to discount what you know about Exchange but... > 1. I don't think any DB should be scanned by an AV program that doesn't > recognize it as such. Ninja is stellar at this. > 2. I'm backing up my E2K7 DBs with the native windowsbackup, no extra cost > to me. > > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership For Strong Families > 315 SE 2nd Ave > Gainesville, Fl 32601 > Office (352) 393-2741 x320 > Cell (352) 215-6944 > Fax (352) 393-2746 > MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:43 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Mail server software > > Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to overlook > certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or > buy a special "plugin" for the antivirus to allow it to scan the Exchange > DB. AFAIK, most of the "alternatives" (at least Kerio) doesn't have this > restriction. > > Not to mention having to buy special add-ons for your archiving solution > just to back up the email store. Oh, and while it's not a problem now, up > until the most recent version of Exchange, you couldn't have more than one > message store and if it got too big, it would virtually implode from being > so big. > > On the reasons why I don't like Outlook, the 2 GB PST file size is a > biggie. > :-) Although the main reason they get that big is that idiots like to send > large files via email...and email is NOT a file transfer application. :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:44 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Mail server software > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond<br...@briandesmond.com> > wrote: > > What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive > amount > > of engineering work in that space - I don't expect it's going anywhere. > > I can't speak for the OP... but the fact that the Exchange IS is a > giant binary blob, completely opaque for the most part, requiring > special tools to work with it, has always made me somewhat > uncomfortable. > > I worked with a Cyrus mail system once that was really sweet. It > could handle many more users on much smaller hardware vs Exchange at > the time, and all the mail was still stored in plain text files (one > per message). You could analyze the message store with the "more" > command if you had to. I don't think we ever had to, but it was nice > to know you had the option. > > I like simple systems; they tend to be more robust. Exchange has > always struck me as being more complex than it needed to be. In > particular, Exchange is pretty fragile when you mistreat it. There's > not much you can do to a Cryus mail server that will result in major > data loss; you can reconstruct from basics if you have to. Exchange, > sheesh, in 2000, all you had to do was run a file search against the > "M: drive" and the server would implode. > > On my list of things to worry about, all this is pretty low down on > my list, but it's not my ideal situation. > > -- Ben > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/17/09 > 06:08:00 > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity > to > which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), > confidential and/or privileged material. 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