ARGH!!! Let me quote Ben: Could you people all please STFU about this? Yes, the above is rude. So is hijacking a forum that explicitly serves another purpose, and using it as a captive audience for your opinions.
Ironic that you're all doing the exact same thing you don't want another guy doing. I did not sign up for an ultra-conservative propaganda list. Stu, will you PLEASE shut this down? If folks continue to rehash it, I say give them the boot. ________________________________ From: TJ [mailto:iwebfor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th If its what I've heard its going to be about "Stay in school, get an education, dont drop out" then that is great. I remember watching our former Presidents in my classroom way back when.. As long as the message is about education, directed at the children to stay in school and not about trying to convince them to tell their parents that the global warming thing is killing polar bears (when its really a hoax) and that we all need national healthcare (when we cant afford the current systems in place: Medicare/Medicaid, etc) and they're either on the edge of bankruptcy or massively corrupt -- then fine. It must be directed at the children regarding their education and education alone. Everything other than education would be considered propaganda, in my opinion. So lets see what happens. Personally, I think its yet another HUGE distraction as the issues that really face this nation are handled in back rooms by people who no nothing about what its like out in the real world where 95% of us actually live and work. Again, my opnion. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Gene Giannamore <gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com> wrote: Allowing a choice and forcing or requiring are 2 different things. I just do not believe any human being should be forced or required to listen to any politician. Encouraged yes, required no. Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577 Office (707) 935-9387 Fax (707) 766-4185 Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com <mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com> www.abideinternational.com <http://www.abideinternational.com/> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th Oh. My. God. President speaks to children. At a school. It's never, ever happened before.http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020 It's really sad that there is no debate in this country, just I don't accept your viewpoint, so I'm going to listen to other people who share the same views (even though they probably don't share all the same views). If my daughter could participate I would encourage her to be involved no matter who is president, even if I disagreed with all of his policies. Sheesh, are you afraid your kids will be brainwashed in one friggin speech? On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Gene Giannamore <gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com> wrote: WOT = way off topic or wide open throttle? Anyway my bro-in-law wrote this J Dear Livermore school officials, Here are two Internet links: http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml <http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml> & http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obamaÿÿ(tm)s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009 <http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama's-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009> These links describe the President of the United States ÿÿ(tm) intent to address pre-K to sixth graders live via the Internet. I am writing to ask for Livermore schools not to accept this broadcast live and/or have an opt-in form sent to parents (so that parents would have to agree to let their children view the speech). I ask this for the reasons below: 1. No Constitutional Authority. The Federal government has no authority to send curriculum to state schools and no authority to address minors without parental permission. 2. No politics in school. There has been no national tragedy that the president is reacting to. The President is trying to set a precedent whereby he may address our youth directly asserting his influence on educational policy. This is political in nature and subject to differences of opinion to-which adults may debate but should be transparent to our youth (especially 4-12 years old). A live broadcast does not allow parents sufficient time to counter the influence of the leader of the free worldÿÿ(tm)s perspective on education. 3. No usurpation of parental rights. Parents have the unequivocal right to guide their children in matters of politics, religion, morality, and etc. The president may have rights and responsibilities to speak to the public, but will violate parental rights by speaking to minors directly without supplying a written transcript or preview of the broadcast. 4. No captive audience. Without and Opt-in policy by the Livermore Valley Joint Unified School District , our children will be a captive audience to the influence of a politician. I believe need not make mention of historical abuses of this power by other nations. No matter how benign the Presidential address may seem, it reduces our liberty and our authority over our own children. So if you do not force our students to watch either by not broadcasting or having parents Opt-in, then you show your dedication to parental rights and authority. Thank you, Livermore parents ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
