Awesome! Thanks Ben!


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Ben Scott <mailvor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jon D <rekcahp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've never paid enough attention. When youguys do a tracert to your
>> wan links, is it normal to get a timeout somewhere along the way, like
>> maybe right after your border router?
>
>  It depends.
>
>  Traceroute works by crafting packets with a deliberately low TTL and
> sending them to the target you specify.  It starts with a TTL of one,
> so the first hop should expire the packet and return an ICMP "Time
> Exceeded" message to the source (your node).  Traceroute reports the
> sender of that ICMP message to you, increments the TTL to two, and
> tries again.  It repeats that until it gets a response from the target
> (or hits the hop limit, 30 by default).
>
>  If any given hop fails to send ICMP "Time Exceeded" messages, you'll
> see a timeout at that hop, but hops past it will work.  Typically
> looks something like this:
>
> 1   <1ms   <1ms   <1ms   foo
> 2   *   *   *   Request timed out
> 3   5 ms   5 ms   5 ms   bar
> 4   7 ms   6 ms   7 ms   baz
> ...
>
>  If any given hop fails to *forward* ICMP "Time Exceeded" messages,
> then you'll traceroute returns up to that hop, and then timeouts from
> that point forward.  For example:
>
> 1   <1ms   <1ms   <1ms   foo
> 2   5 ms   5 ms   5 ms   bar
> 3   7 ms   6 ms   7 ms   baz
> 4   *   *   *   Request timed out
> 5   *   *   *   Request timed out
> ...
>
>  Some routers don't generate or forward "Time Exceeded" messages like
> they should.  Sometimes that's due to brain damaged
> design/implementation by the router manufacturer.  Other times it's
> because a brain damaged operator thinks ICMP is a virus, rather than
> an essential part of IP.  (Such people are IWF -- Idiot With
> Firewall.)
>
>> ... traffic is getting through despite the timeout ...
>
>  That almost certainly means the traceroute timeout for a single hop
> is spurious and should be ignored.
>
>> ... I see some high latency ...
>
>  You want to see where the latency is coming from.  Compare the
> latency between hops.  Large increases across two hops narrow the
> problem down to there.
>
> -- Ben
>
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