Sorry, I didn't know what i was thinking about...I meant LTO5 that they will be 
release in the coming year...

--- El mié, 16/9/09, Miguel Gonzalez <miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es> escribió:

> De: Miguel Gonzalez <miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es>
> Asunto: RE: Disk based backup
> Para: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Fecha: miércoles, 16 septiembre, 2009 2:23
> are LTO4 already in the market? We
> are getting info that won't be available until beginning of
> next year.
> 
> The best solution right now is mixing disk and tapes
> backups: VTL (Virtual Tape Library). But it's a little bit
> pricey for a small businesses, although I believe there
> could be open source or free (or close to free) solutions.
> 
> Tapes are good to manage and take them to a firesafe place
> (not only good in the case of fire but also in the case of
> robbery or flooding or any other disaster). We are using
> Netbackup at work and have saved our asses almost every
> week. Netbackup marks tapes that are no good so you can
> discard them. I've seen a business spending around $12,000
> to recover data for having no backups (which is close to
> have a bad backup policy) because a RAID array failed after
> a battery replacement.
> 
> We have evolved our pure-tape-LTO backups to a VTL. This is
> great since backups and restores from disk take nothing to
> be done and you can decide which information will be
> exported to tapes (you can keep email and user data on disk
> for instance).
> 
> I guess you can dimension it as you want: from just an old
> server with a huge hard drive and a LTO tape drive to a more
> reliable RAID array with a robot. It always depends on your
> budget.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Miguel
> 
>  
> 
> --- El mié, 16/9/09, Sam Cayze <sam.ca...@rollouts.com>
> escribió:
> 
> > De: Sam Cayze <sam.ca...@rollouts.com>
> > Asunto: RE: Disk based backup
> > Para: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > Fecha: miércoles, 16 septiembre, 2009 1:32
> > Sounds about right, I am getting
> > 1,500MB/MIN (25MB/SEC) on my backups.
> > And iirc my restores were about 20MB/Sec going to
> bare
> > metal RAID5.
> > 
> > What speeds do you see with LTO? Has the reliability
> of
> > tapes increased
> > in your opinion?
> > 
> > Good info, thanks as always.
> > 
> > Sam
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:04 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Disk based backup
> > 
> > eSata will be about 1.5x what you can get with USB
> only
> > (assuming you
> > are copying to a single target disk). I've generally
> found
> > that USB2
> > peaks at around 15-20MB/sec, and eSATA is around
> > 25-30MB/sec (max)
> > 
> > With LTO4 - if you are copying from a single disk,
> then the
> > limitation
> > will be the source, not the destination. Likewise
> with
> > restores, you'll
> > probably be bottlenecked by the target if it's a
> single
> > spindle.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 1:41 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Disk based backup
> > 
> > Wow! Had no idea.  I've been on eSATA drives for
> years
> > now, ditched
> > tapes for the speed and reliability.
> > Ken, do the restore speeds also show this type of
> > performance?  Because
> > ultimately that's what matters, right.  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:36 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Disk based backup
> > 
> > USB connected drives are way too slow. LTO4 alone
> should
> > get you 5x-6x
> > the speed of a USB connected drive (YMMV)
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:14 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Disk based backup
> > 
> > Why not just take some external drives and mount them
> in
> > whatever you
> > use (BEX/UB etc) and rotate the drives.
> > 
> > At 79 bucks for a 1TB SATA, or 89 for a USB version,
> you
> > could do a 5
> > day rotation for 2 weeks for 900 dollars if you can
> get the
> > data on 1tb.
> > 
> > 
> > If you want to be more involved do the backups with
> deltas
> > so you only
> > do changes throughout the week and should be good.
> With the
> > drives being
> > so fast restoring through 3-4 usb drives isn't really
> a big
> > deal, not
> > like waiting 30 mins for cataloging a tape..
> > 
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