Thanks, Stu... as I said, it's not a big deal, as I'll probably need to
allow some of our apps through on each one, but it's a "would be nice to
have" deal. :-) I might even have done something wrong, but I was pretty
sure I was following the directions. :-) It /did/ try to uninstall, it just
didn't do it. :-)




-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Jamie Cullen
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

John,

I have escalated this ticket to our Tech Support Manager.

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
[email protected]


 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

Well, in my *personal* opinion, the paid-for version of AVG antivirus
does
next to nothing against Trojans, etc. You have to have AVG Internet
Security
for that, apparently. I know for a fact that several Trojans have gotten
onto machines on my network which have AVG Antivirus Network Edition
(paid)
installed. AVG *might* report that they are there, but does not remove
them.
I had to use MalwareBytes to remove several Trojans on machines
"protected"
by the paid-for verion of AVG Antivirus Network Edition. For that
reason,
I'm going to drop AVG when it expires and probably buy Vipre and install
it
instead.

My only complaints about Vipre at this point are 1) It never finishes a
scan
on my machine, despite the fact that I have 3 Gigs of RAM. HOWEVER, I
don't
hold that against Vipre, as my machine is both a client AND the server.
I
*do* hope that a true "server" class machine would finish the scan. 2)it
does NOT uninstall AVG Network Edition, despite following the
instructions
given by Sunbelt. Now, #2 is not a huge issue for me, as I can lay hands
on
virtually all the machines that I will need to install Vipre on. It's
only a
/small/ hassle, but it would be nice if Vipre would do as advertised and
truly uninstall AVG. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

AVG Free is just as functional against Malware/Trojans as the paid
version.
There is no difference.  The only things lacking in Free vs. paid is
rootkit
protection and additional scanning of web content.   I can see wanting
the
rootkit protection if it's any good, the extra scanning of web content
isn't
worth much, since everything from the web that's going to do harm gets
saved
as a file first and is subject to realtime file scanning.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

Not to mention AVG Free does next to nothing for Malware/Trojans... for
Antivirus, it's pretty good, but in my experience, while viruses *are*
circulating, most of the bad stuff out there is a Trojan or other form
of
malware other than virus.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

Agreed. I have been waiting for it since Win7 went RTM since OneCare
will
not install on Win7 and I am not a fan of AVG Free either. Not that it
is
bad, just that it is a hog.
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

Good point.  I suspect this will be looked at as part of the Win7
release
and rollout - and in a similar fashion.

AVG free on Win7 is still a hog.  MSE runs quiet and there doesn't
"appear"
to be the performance issues that plague the other free offerings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

I agree. But given that reality, are companies really going to rush to
push
out this new release from Microsoft? I doubt it myself. Companies  that
are
taking the free or nothing approach are already using AVG or some other
free
vendor, since upgrading (even to a free product) has inherent costs
involved.
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

That accurately defines the current economical landscape.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

Only for those organizations more worried about being cheap than being
safe.
I know it sounds harsh, but it's true.
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

I'm sure we'll see it on business networks everywhere the next time AVG
Free
do an upgrade.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 29 September 2009 17:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MSE is released...

Well...yeah.

For business, System Center and MS Forefront is the solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MSE is released...

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]>
wrote:
> http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

  The license seems to imply it's for home users only... (?)

"You may install and use any number of copies of the software on your
devices in your household for use by people who reside there or for use
in
your home-based small business."

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/eula.aspx

-- Ben

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


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