Yep.  We also require original install disks and Windows stickers on the PC 
(unless they have a retail key).  If we have old stuff lying around that would 
make their PC better (memory, etc) we will let them have it.  But usually they 
opt for new PCs if we tell them the repair will cost them money.  Most of them 
just go buy the $200 BestBuy PCs then complain how slow they are.



From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: infected box

We do the same (charge them coffee or something) unless it requires h 
ardware...then they pay.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Bob Fronk 
<b...@btrfronk.com<mailto:b...@btrfronk.com>> wrote:
Fortunately my blocks and protections at work seem to keep our malware to a 
very low minimum.  However, as a "perk" we work on employee PCs.  We see plenty 
of infected machines and our standard answer is "I will format it and 
re-install it, but I won't try to clean it".

Once a PC is compromised, I have no trust in it.  I pull the drive, copy 
documents, etc to another source, then re-install.  Many times this is quicker 
than trying to "clean" it.

Bob



From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com<mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: infected box

Hi people,

I have a client with an infected box. It seems to have the "SafeFighter" 
trojan. Vipre says that it blocked the installation of it but it has pop-ups 
wanting you to register the SafeFighter product to clean it out. It also puts 
up a false "Microsoft Security Center" window telling you that your firewall is 
ON and your virus protection is OFF or non-existent. When viewing the 'real' 
Security Center you find that Vipre is listed and running and the firewall is 
off as the settings dictate as the unit is behind a network firewall. And when 
you visit Vipre it is scanning with no items listed,n and it has two items in 
the blocked area but nothing in the Quarantine or any where else. These pop-ups 
come every few minutes. I would like to stop the pop-ups long enough to back up 
data and flatten the box and install Win7 in a couple of weeks when Win7 is 
released.

Does anyone have a manual method of removing this rascal? Everything I've found 
on the web is wanting you to buy their product to do it. I may have to call 
Sunbelt to get their method? But Vipre says that it blocked it but something is 
still running. Maybe I'll just reboot and see if it is only in memory and the 
pop-ups go away.

Anyone with thoughts for temp help. I know that a rebuild is the only sure way 
to cleanliness - just not today.

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com<mailto:lenhamm...@gmail.com>














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