Perhaps you can take the tack that your department owns the network,
and that you won't have such an insecure setup on your network - they
can run the software on the server they manage themselves, as long as
it doesn't connect to the production network.

I doubt it, but...

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 14:02, Mayo, Bill <bem...@pittcountync.gov> wrote:
> Afraid not.  The department that uses the software makes the decision
> about what they use.  We can only advise.  We previously had a different
> vendor, and this vendor is actually superior from what I can tell.
>
> I don't really deal directly with the vendor for this system, so the
> only thing I can do is point out the problems to the person that
> administers the system and to our CIO.  The former has been hearing
> about it all day, and the latter will (he is already aware of some
> issues we have had when the workstation has had problems).
>
> The last time this came up (when I had some involvement with the
> workstation getting setup), I complained to the on-site tech about it.
> At that time (about 3 years ago), he said that he agreed and that they
> were working on converting the processes to services.  Guess that didn't
> happen.
>
> Thanks to all for the confirmation that I am not just difficult (at
> least in this case!).
>
> Bill Mayo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Reality check
>
> As long as you are tied to the vendor, they will do whatever they want,
> which means not fixing the problem.
>
> Any possibility of shopping around for another vendor?
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Infrastructure Service Delivery
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life
> Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:05 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Reality check
>
> I am terribly frustrated with an application vendor who is on-site to
> add a new module to on of our critical software packages, and I want to
> confirm it is not just me being difficult.  This system already has the
> requirement that a workstation be logged on with 3 different programs
> running in the foreground to shuffle data around between modules.  To be
> clear, an account has to be logged into this machine at all times for
> this system to work properly.  They are here now, installing a new
> server for a new module, and they now have to have it doing the same
> thing on the server (logged on account, foreground applications
> running).
>
> This is not a minor system (either in size or cost) and the parent
> company is not tiny (rhymes with "bun hard").  When I say "services"
> they look at me like I am from Mars.  The problems with needing an
> account logged onto a server at all times seem obvious to me.  (The
> workstation was bad enough.)  Am I alone?
>
> Bill Mayo
>
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