IIRC, GPMC was supposed to ship with Server 2003 but got delayed.  It was
made available before SP1.

 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Reviewing my GPs, and found something I don't understand

 

That sounds reasonable.  I worked with quite a few SBS 2003 customers back
in 2003 / 2004 and I am fairly certain that SBS 2003 was the first OS that
shipped with GPMC installed.  I was consulting all over the place at the
time and it was frustrating going to larger, non-SBS shops because the tool
wasn't available and I was used to it being there.  Among some of the more
militant SBS-heads, it was a point of pride that they got the cool tool
before the big boys.  I must have read something along the way written by
someone who made up the part about it trickling up from SBS.

 

 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Free, Bob <r...@pge.com> wrote:

That seems like a bit of a stretch. 

 

Much of the focus on GPMC was around simplifying enterprise management,
programmatically accessing GPOs and providing a scripting interface, why
would you need all that on SBS? I spent a couple of evenings with the GPMC
PM right around the time it launched and he never mentioned SBS(his team was
under the Windows Server group).  The MS line at the time was that it was a
response to many customers, especially larger ones complaining about the
immature toolset for managing large numbers of GPOs without employing a 3rd
party solution..

 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:08 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Reviewing my GPs, and found something I don't understand

 

Not that it matters one whit, but my understanding is that the GPMC came out
of the SBS group (SBS 2003) and was such a popular addition that it was
adopted overall.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Brian Desmond <br...@briandesmond.com>
wrote:

Up until Windows 2008, there was a Group Policy tab on the properties of
OUs, Domains, and Sites in ADUC and dssites. This was how you accessed
policies and edited them. GPMC came out of band sometime after 2003 shipped.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
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________________________________________

From: Carl Houseman [c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:58 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Reviewing my GPs, and found something I don't understand



Why aren't you using Group Policy Management (GPMC)?  That's the tool
intended for editing group policies that are applied to OUs.  You can run
that on a DC, member server, or workstation and it always looks at domain
policies.

By default, gpedit.msc views and modifies the local machine policy.  I don't
see a way to make gpedit.msc access a domain policy or machine policy on any
other machine, because that's not its intended function.

And you lost me when you talked about invoking gpedit.msc from ADU&C.
Editing group policies is not a function of ADU&C.

Carl


-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Reviewing my GPs, and found something I don't understand

Minor issue, but it caused me to fumble for a few minutes....

I was looking over my Group Policies, and couldn't find them.

I tracked it down, but need some help understanding what I was looking at.

Win2k3 R2 domain, FFL/DFL.

I started gpedit.msc via Start/Run on my XP SP3 workstation, and
started hunting for my DisableAutoplay GP, which I show as being
linked to my Workstation OU. I just couldn't see it anywhere, despite
going back to the MSFT KB article - 967715.

I finally logged into my DC, and gpedit.msc showed the GP exactly as
expected. I then went back to ADUC on my workstation, and invoked
Properties on the OU in question, and it gave me a version of
gpedit.msc that was connected to the domain, as expected.

It's obvious that my local copy of gpedit.msc is pointing to my local
machine (if I start it from Start/Run), but if invoked from ADUC it
works as expected.

Can anyone enlighten me on this difference?

Kurt



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