As long as there is a DR solution in place, one can work around various issues 
with lack of support.  Management has to look at the fact that support costs X, 
and if event Y happens, resolution could cost Z.  

In this case he was without some non-critical servers for a few hours.

Shoot, I used to call Veritas for support, and it would be 8-12 hours before 
they would call back just to assign an engineer.



-----Original Message-----
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot

Maybe you should recalculate that ROI after this incident. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot

Correct - no support. Budget cuts ate that.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 06:34, N Parr <npar...@mortonind.com> wrote:
> Yes in the olden days when we were on 3.5 and DAS I would get the pink screen 
> of death and new Perc firmware fixed that.  Just a stupid question but I 
> assume you don't have a maint contract with VMWare or you would have opened a 
> case with them right?  In the past when I've has similar issues as this 
> they've been able to resolve it for me over a webex very quickly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:05 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot
>
> You are reading my mind...
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 17:01, Klint Price <kpr...@arizonaitpro.com> wrote:
>> No problem.... I have had some 2950's on ESX go haywire with DAS when there 
>> was high IO going on, requiring a reboot.  You may want to check for newer 
>> firmware for the card and related hardware.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:07 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot
>>
>> BTW...
>>
>> Damian and Klint and Karl: Thanks for your help on this. I really appreciate 
>> it.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 15:39, Klint Price <kpr...@arizonaitpro.com> wrote:
>>> Remember to power off all guests, and put in maintenance mode in case you 
>>> need to reboot several times.  You may also want to shut off auto power-on 
>>> so you can bring them back online one at a time.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Klint Price [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:38 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot
>>>
>>> Ok, a 2950 has dual core Xeons.  Don't worry about the 90% on Proc 0 as 
>>> your average load is coming in around 60%.
>>>
>>> Let me know the results of your reboot process.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:24 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot
>>>
>>> Dual proc, dual core.
>>>
>>> Proc 0 = 90.72% avg
>>> Proc 1 = 50.18% avg
>>> Proc 2 = 49.49% avg
>>> Proc 4 = 49.74% avg
>>>
>>> Total is 59.74% avg
>>>
>>> But it's been higher than that all the time I've been 
>>> troubleshooting this problem.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 15:12, Klint Price <kpr...@arizonaitpro.com> wrote:
>>>> 90% utilization after downing two servers?  Is that 90% on a single core, 
>>>> or 90% total?
>>>>
>>>> How many other VMs do you have on the LUN(s) that are still powered on?  
>>>> Any more than the two referenced below?
>>>>
>>>> What is the output / top CPU utilization pct for the processes found by 
>>>> running:
>>>>
>>>> #top (from SSH)
>>>>
>>>> (exit with CTRL-C)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:04 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Re: OTish: ESX 3.5 guest won't boot
>>>>
>>>> In line...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 14:40, Klint Price <kpr...@arizonaitpro.com> wrote:
>>>>> 1) I wouldn't expect a power on to work until you can get this command to 
>>>>> work:
>>>>>
>>>>> vmkfstools -P /vmfs/volumes/esx2\:storage1/sus/sus.vmdk
>>>>>
>>>>> The host needs to be able to read from the disk.
>>>>
>>>> Reasonable.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Do you have an additional non-production server on the same LUN 
>>>>> that can be powered off, with an attempt to restart your current down 
>>>>> server?  Result?
>>>>> Will the 2nd non-production server power back on?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It's acting in a similar way - I logged in, and it shut down 
>>>> fine, but it won't power up now. Nor will a machine that I had 
>>>> powered
>>>>
>>>>> 3) All things DR considered, can you schedule a reboot tonight?  
>>>>> If so, you may want to consider re-seating the HBA and drives, 
>>>>> clear dust (which can cause cards to overheat), and reboot.
>>>>
>>>> Gotcha.
>>>>
>>>> One last thing for the moment: I've been looking at the performance 
>>>> chart for this box, and see that CPU utilization is hovering around 
>>>> 90%. I've got one VM that seems pretty far out of line from its 
>>>> normal CPU utilization (our Win2k TS server), and another that's a 
>>>> bit higher than normal (our Win2k3 file/print server).
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of kicking the one person using the TS server off and 
>>>> rebooting, and seeing what that does to the situation, before 
>>>> downing the other machine.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
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