Not so weird, when considered with the previous statement.

It seems that the release portion of the process is where most of the time
is consumed.

This is equivalent *in concept* to killing the process for a service and
then restarting the service, as opposed to trying to get the service to
shutdown and restart manually.

Typically, though, there is less danger to data when unplugging the network
cable as compared to the process kill.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Even more weird!
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 19:55, Carl Houseman <c.house...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree.  Unplugging and re-plugging the UTP cable is another choice.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:21 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Domain controllers, what is supposed to happen.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's actually slower to do a release/renew.   I'm still not sure why the
> > logic for this is so much worse than the other approach.
> >
> > -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't an 'ipconfig /release && ipconfig /renew' do the same thing?
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:38, Carl Houseman <c.house...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> When XP is using the secondary DNS and I want it to use the primary
> which
> >> is
> >> now available, I just disable/re-enable the NIC. I believe this holds
> true
> >> for Vista/7 as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If the primary was working and then becomes unavailable, I find that it
> >> will
> >> keep trying it, timeout (30 seconds), then use the secondary.  But it
> >> should
> >> definitely fail over to secondary servers with some annoying delay.
> >> Bouncing the NIC will eliminate the delay.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Also the SP3 IP stack is modern, not old.  It was completely replaced in
> >> SP3
> >> using the same codebase as Vista.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:24 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: Domain controllers, what is supposed to happen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It’s possible that XP may require a reboot before it retires an
> >> unreachable
> >> DNS server. I dunno. But it should work just fine.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael B. Smith
> >>
> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >>
> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:15 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Domain controllers, what is supposed to happen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry, long email.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Windows 2003 Native Domain, two domain controllers, server1 and server2.
> >> Workstations are primarily XP, some Windows 7. Other servers (file
> server,
> >> email etc) are all Windows 2003. We have about 150 workstations.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We have AD DNS, and WINS. Server1 has FSMO roles Infrastructure Master,
> >> PDC
> >> Emulator, RID Master. Server2 has FSMO roles Domain Naming Master,
> Schema
> >> Master. Both are GC’s.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In the DHCP settings workstations get both server’s IP’s as DNS. Server2
> >> is
> >> listed first, then server1. Primary WINS server is server1, secondary is
> >> Server2.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Last night Server1 went down. It was off hours, but I got a call from
> some
> >> late night worker (using XP), saying they couldn’t do anything. Couldn’t
> >> reach any of the servers, or internet. I was able to get the server
> going
> >> again (bad memory chip, so I just took it out).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought that if one server went down, the DNS/WINS look up would go to
> >> the
> >> other server. But it might be slower (note, I didn’t try any of this,
> just
> >> going on what the user said). Comments?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If I didn’t get Server1 running again, what should I have done? I assume
> I
> >> should do the following.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1.       Seize the FSMO roles from server1, and put them on server2.
> >>
> >> 2.       Change DHCP so Primary WINS server is server2. Maybe even take
> >> out
> >> Server1 as DNS/WINS possibilities.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Then work on getting Server1 running again, or replacing it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Did I miss anything?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help and insight you can give.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
>

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