Steven, I understand where you're coming from, however, I must respectfully disagree. I think it's a security model problem, which makes it a *PLATFORM* problem. In the "Windows World" up until recently, everyone was a local admin by default. In the *nix world (of which Macs are a member since OS/X came out) you are a non-privileged user by default and had to manually escalate your privileges. Under the "old" Windows security model, anyone could install anything they wanted. Under the *nix security model, only an "admin" (or someone who had manually escalated their privileges temporarily) can install something. Now, Microsoft has *finally* seen the error of making it so easy on the end user and made it harder to run as a local admin by default. >From what little I've seen of Windows 7, even if you are a member of the >"local admin" group, you may still have to manually use "run as an >administrator" to install software.
-----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV I'd suggest that's a people problem, not a platform problem. -sc > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:23 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > It wouldn't be as bad because ALL of those Mac users are non-admins. > > Compared with today's Windows population where probably 60% or more of > Windows users are admins for everyday usage. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:20 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > I'm not sure how you draw the conclusion that it probably wouldn't be as > bad. > > I'd also suggest that there's a significant anti-MS sentiment that makes it a > specific target. Along with the fact that I suspect that gunning for the #1 > platform makes extrapolating OS share to virus infection target rate a non- > linear exercise. > > -sc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:13 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > I started to reply to that remark too, then I had a little debate with > > myself whether I could make a good point... given that Macs have had a > > non-admin user default for some time, while Microsoft did nothing to > > encourage users to not be admins until Vista. > > > > Certainly if the tables were turned and Macs had 92% of the worldwide > > market share, the infection rate of Macs would be much higher than we > > see today. But it probably wouldn't be nearly as bad as Windows overall is > today. > > > > Carl > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:00 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously > > > much better than Windows > > > > I'd suggest that's an ill-drawn conclusion. > > > > -sc > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net > > > [mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:19 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > > > Are there any reports out there that show Windows 7 running with UAC > > > that its minimizes the infections of spyware. > > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously > > > much better than Windows. I am hoping that with Win 7 and their > > > requirement to run as admin similar to the Unix model that it will > > > help minimize this. Even with users not in admin group in Windows > > > XP, Vista I have seen malware get right on and hose a machine. > > > Of course with Windows 7 if you make someone a local admin and > > > disable the UAC you are back to the XP model of security. > > > > > > Of all our support requests I would say 40% at least are malware > > > related probably higher.. > > > > > > I see this as an OS security issue not a 3rd party program issue. > > > > > > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tammy [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:11 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > > > Everyone seems to be having these issues of the rogues slipping through. > > > Not just any one AV. > > > 70 thousand or so new ones released daily so it is difficult for > > > anyone to keep up. > > > More explained here by Eric Howes > > > > > > http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tammy Stewart > > > Malware Removal Specialist > > > Sunbelt Software > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
