I agree, PING by name tests a few birds with one stone. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
-----Original Message----- From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Now: monitoring; (was RE: Veering even more OT ...) +1, I've smoked my Service Desk guys on that EXACT error before (not that I've ever done the same bonehead thing myself to burn this into my head) Setting up monitoring dependencies follows the same thing - no need to PING test a remote server if you can't ping a the local switch, or the remote router, etc. Which brings up a question as I've had this debate with my network architect. He says when monitoring servers to ping by IP instead of hostname "in case DNS goes down". My point is you should be testing for that infrastructure anyway so ping by name doesn't get triggered unless DNS functionality (also tested for) is working. I'm of the "test as you operate" so if clients connect by hostname, then test by hostname. If only IP addr is used, then use that. Same for websites, etc. Would LOVE to see a whitepaper recommending one way or another. Thoughts? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -----Original Message----- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 6:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Veering even more OT - was: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this? +1 Back in the NT 4.0 days when interviewing candidates I'd ask them the first thing they'd check if a user could not login due to a 'domain controller cannot be found' type error. Amazing how many would jump directly to the more 'sophisticated' layers, check domain controller, IP Stack, WINS, etc .... To me the ONLY correct answer for the FIRST thing to check is: Check the Ethernet cable ! ( in my experience over 90% of these type errors were from the ether net cable either being unplugged or damaged ) Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Veering even more OT - was: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this? Normalisation is used for data integrity not efficiency. And whilst there aren't many practical implementations of OSI, the concept of a layered approach to networking (physical link, node addressing, routing, session control) is very useful in design and diagnosing problems. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~