Well said, Jim.
*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp <http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Kennedy, Jim <kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>wrote: > *Not giving you a hard time here, just pointing out the finer points of > that article. They are using the word ‘compensation’ and you are using the > word ‘pay’. Yep, our compensation includes the vacation, retirement and > health care. All of which are traditionally much better than the private > sector. But our pay has been traditionally lower.* > > *What has happened over the last 5 to 10 years is the value of the health > benefits has goon up dramatically so that has narrowed that gap. Then the > recent economic disaster has caused private sector pay to freeze and get > lowered. That is what has created the gap the news is making a big deal out > of. Yep, we are still getting our yearly 1 or 2 percent raises while the > private sector gets nothing or is getting cuts. In the good economic times > we get 3 tops and private sector people are getting 5+.* > > *The reality is that during difficult economic times us government workers > pretty much always get accused of this. But during good economic times when > the private sector pay is growing by leaps and bounds and everyone is > getting bonuses and profit charing nobody points out that we are getting > next to nothing, and the news and the public don’t pay any attention.* > > *I believe it all evens out, more or less. People just need to look at the > whole picture and get all the facts.* > > * * > > * * > > On Aug 17, 2010 12:46 AM, "Angus Scott-Fleming" <angu...@geoapps.com> > wrote: > > On 16 Aug 2010 at 15:08, Joseph Heaton wrote: > > > I wish my salary was equal to the private sector. ... > > Must be different in IT vs the rest of the country, then. Latest I've seen > suggest that public-sector jobs pay twice as much at the federal level and > 18- > 20% more at the state and local level than the equivalent private-sector > job. > > ============= Included Stuff Follows ============= > The Latest in The War Between Public & Private Sector Workers: "The > compensation gap between federal and private workers has doubled in the > past > decade." - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine > > Put down that coffee or soda before reading the latest of the massive > and > growing gap between public and private sector compensation: > > Federal workers have been awarded bigger average pay and benefit > increases than private employees for nine years in a row. The > compensation gap between federal and private workers has doubled in > the past decade. > > Federal civil servants earned average pay and benefits of > $123,049 in 2009 while private workers made $61,051 in total > compensation, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The data > are the latest available. > > The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,415 in 2000 > to $61,998 last year. > > But wait, there's more: > > What the data show: > > oBenefits. Federal workers received average benefits worth > $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government's contribution to > pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569. > > oPay. The average federal salary has grown 33% faster than > inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal > government pays an average of 20% more than private firms for > comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in > experience and education. > > oTotal compensation. Federal compensation has grown 36.9% since > 2000 after adjusting for inflation, compared with 8.8% for private > workers. > > The article notes that defenders of federal pay levels argue that public > employers tend to have more education than their private sector > counterparts. Which, as much as anything, probably reflects > credentialism > run amok as a demonstrated need for specialized skills. > > Read the whole thing here. > > ============= Included Stuff Ends ============= > More here with links: > http://reason.com/blog/2010/08/10/the-latest-in-the-war-between > > But I digress from the original OT post. > > I'm voting with Kurt, take the private-sector job. > > Angus > > -- > Angus Scott-Fleming > GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona > 1-520-290-5038 > Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
